Queen's 70th Jubilee

[Roy]

I wonder if the Jubilee coin might feature a new obverse, the Elizabeth veiled head?

[Heirlooms]

I thought this as well however I think it would need to be for all coinage and not just commemorative/collector coins for it to happen. Can't see the Royal Mint being authorised to put a portrait of the Queen in a veil on coins for the sole purpose of profit making. Then again you never know

[westminstrel]

Queen Victoria actually wore a veil as a widow, so it probably seemed okay to feature her with the veil on later coinage.

If QEII does not wear a veil hereafter (and I doubt she will, except perhaps for the funeral), it might be weird to have her sit down wearing a veil just for a sketching session of a new coinage portrait as if the veil were some sort of accessory.

[SidS]

Do we really need another definitive Elizabeth II portrait?

Cash is being used less and less, the mint or Bank of England is sat on millions of surplus coins struck between 2016-2019, so much so that they think no more 2p coins will need to be struck for another decade!

The last change of portrait only occurred in 2015, and I presume the process of consulting artists and developing concepts to the finished design will take a few years from start to finish.

TheQueen is on the verge of her 95th birthday, and whilst I hope she can live for many more years yet, to break a few more records (like Louis XIV's), but at the age she is at, there is every possibility that the Queen could die before the designs are finished. I know that sounds awful put so bluntly, but just think on four years ago Prince Philip was still quite sprightly for his age. Heck two years ago, he had that horrific car crash and walked away with but a scratch. So people can go down hill fast and unexpectedly in their 90s, hopefully she won't. But I don't really see the point of doing another wholesale redesign this late in the reign.

It'd be better spent getting Charles (or William) coinage designs ideas drafted and at a place where they can be implemented when required.

Edited April 13, 2021 by SidS
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[westminstrel]

5 hours ago, SidS said:

It'd be better spent getting Charles (or William) coinage designs ideas drafted and at a place where they can be implemented when required.

I’m not sure if I read this here or elsewhere (it was most probably here), but apparently Prince Charles has already sat down for his portrait. Whether it’s fact or hearsay is anyone’s guess. 

[Stuntman]

On 13/04/2021 at 12:28, westminstrel said:

Queen Victoria actually wore a veil as a widow, so it probably seemed okay to feature her with the veil on later coinage.

If QEII does not wear a veil hereafter (and I doubt she will, except perhaps for the funeral), it might be weird to have her sit down wearing a veil just for a sketching session of a new coinage portrait as if the veil were some sort of accessory.

Yes she did, but she was widowed in 1861 and the Veiled Head didn't appear on the coinage until 1893.

Until 1887, she was still trying to pass as a 19 year old on the coinage 😁

I think it's very unlikely that we'll see a different standard portrait on the sovereigns and other coinage, until The Queen is no longer The Queen.  We may however see a special portrait for some of the 2022 commemoratives perhaps, in a similar way to the one-off portrait for the 1989 sovereign - although that portrait was all about the anniversary of the sovereign coin, rather than the anniversary of the sovereign monarch.

[LawrenceChard]

On 12/04/2021 at 14:12, Roy said:

I wonder if the Jubilee coin might feature a new obverse, the Elizabeth veiled head?

Why, has she converted to Islam? 🙂

[LawrenceChard]

On 13/04/2021 at 17:06, SidS said:

Cash is being used less and less, the mint or Bank of England is sat on millions of surplus coins struck between 2016-2019, so much so that they think no more 2p coins will need to be struck for another decade!

The last change of portrait only occurred in 2015, and I presume the process of consulting artists and developing concepts to the finished design will take a few years from start to finish.

TheQueen is on the verge of her 95th birthday, and whilst I hope she can live for many more years yet, to break a few more records (like Louis XIV's), but at the age she is at, there is every possibility that the Queen could die before the designs are finished. I know that sounds awful put so bluntly, but just think on four years ago Prince Philip was still quite sprightly for his age. Heck two years ago, he had that horrific car crash and walked away with but a scratch. So people can go down hill fast and unexpectedly in their 90s, hopefully she won't. But I don't really see the point of doing another wholesale redesign this late in the reign.

It'd be better spent getting Charles (or William) coinage designs ideas drafted and at a place where they can be implemented when required.

Cash is being used less and less, the mint or Bank of England is sat on millions of surplus coins struck between 2016-2019, so much so that they think no more 2p coins will need to be struck for another decade!

The Bank of England have nothing to do with British coins. They are in charge of banknotes, whereas the Royal Mint produce, stock, and distribute circulation coinage.

The last change of portrait only occurred in 2015, and I presume the process of consulting artists and developing concepts to the finished design will take a few years from start to finish.

It could be done a lot quicker.

TheQueen is on the verge of her 95th birthday, and whilst I hope she can live for many more years yet, to break a few more records (like Louis XIV's), but at the age she is at, there is every possibility that the Queen could die before the designs are finished. I know that sounds awful put so bluntly, but just think on four years ago Prince Philip was still quite sprightly for his age. Heck two years ago, he had that horrific car crash and walked away with but a scratch. So people can go down hill fast and unexpectedly in their 90s, hopefully she won't. But I don't really see the point of doing another wholesale redesign this late in the reign.

It's my guess that any designs for Prince Philip's 100th birthday will now be adapted for a combined Centennial and Memorial coin.

It'd be better spent getting Charles (or William) coinage designs ideas drafted and at a place where they can be implemented when required.

Prince Charles has appeared on numerous coin issues already, so any portrait designs could be modified for his 75th birthday in 2023, or for his coronation, whenever that may be. It is possible, and quite likely, that he will use some of his other names, rather than become Charles III.

Personally, I was hoping that Prince Philip wold be around for his century, and an appropriate coin.

Let's hope that Queen Elizabeth makes it to her centenary in 2026.

[Richym99]

9 minutes ago, LawrenceChard said:

Let's hope that Queen Elizabeth makes it to her centenary in 2026.

If she does, that will certainly be four more commemorative coins

2022 Platinum Jubilee.

2023 Platinum anniversary of the Coronation

2024 Longest Reigning Monarch in History

2026 100th Birthday.