Would like some options please 😇

[Dking90]

What do you think of my hand poured, hammered and antiqued .999 silver lump  it’s about 112g? 
thanks for your time 👍🏻
danny 

[Arganto]

It's a lovely piece, who poured it?

What are you looking for in the way of "options"?

[dicker]

Very attractive. I like the X!

Best

Dicker

[Robda1986]

Not to my taste but hey if everyone likes the same there wouldn't be any verity 

[Dking90]

On 17/01/2021 at 10:03, Liam84 said:

It's a lovely piece, who poured it?

What are you looking for in the way of "options"?

Sorry I have only just seen your message  I poured, hammered and antiqued it 👍🏻 I could sell it if your interested 😁

[Arganto]

37 minutes ago, Dking90 said:

Sorry I have only just seen your message  I poured, hammered and antiqued it 👍🏻 I could sell it if your interested 😁

It's a wonderful piece, you've got talent. I'm not one for buying art pieces currently (unless it's a gift for someone), but I'm sure if you put it in the trade section with a price it would sell pretty quickly, there are plenty of collectors of such things on TSF 😁 Have you had it hallmarked? 

[sixgun]

i expect it would be illegal to sell this in the UK. It would be difficult to pass this off as bullion and if it isn't bullion it must be hallmarked if you sell it.

i expect @BackyardBullion would agree with this opinion.

[Dking90]

6 hours ago, Liam84 said:

It's a wonderful piece, you've got talent. I'm not one for buying art pieces currently (unless it's a gift for someone), but I'm sure if you put it in the trade section with a price it would sell pretty quickly, there are plenty of collectors of such things on TSF 😁 Have you had it hallmarked? 

Thank you. It’s one of my first pours, It’s not hallmarked as I just made it for fun  these are my first and second pours 😁

[Dking90]

4 hours ago, sixgun said:

i expect it would be illegal to sell this in the UK. It would be difficult to pass this off as bullion and if it isn't bullion it must be hallmarked if you sell it.

i expect @BackyardBullion would agree with this opinion.

Even if you’ sell it as art? 
🧐

[BackyardBullion]

48 minutes ago, Dking90 said:

Even if you’ sell it as art? 
🧐

Very nice pieces my friend! I especially like the YouTube play button piece 😉

Regarding hallmarking: The YouTube play button and hammer will 100% need to be hallmarked if you want to sell them. The hammered button round is less clear as to whether it could be passed off as a bullion product or simple round. 

Hallmarking legislation applies to everyone, even the people that buy your items after you have sold them initially. It is especially applicable to items that are considered artwork. Really the only items that don't need hallmarking are bars and rounds that are just "bullion" or raw material. 

There are many different opinions on what constitutes a "round" or "bar" including the finish, I would suggest contacting an assay office if you are unsure.

[sixgun]

i would say all three pieces i can see on this page are clearly 'art' pieces. A significant amount of work has been carried out to make the piece a decorative piece. These are not bullion.
How many careful hammer blows were delivered to the hammer finished roundel? Then it was antiqued. 
What price is the piece being sold at or hoped to be sold at above the cost of silver to the maker of the piece?

My estimation is that quite a lot of time was spent on the finish and appearance of the pieces. i expect if you were to damage the finish and appearance of that piece you would significantly affect the value. That's because people are buying them as an art piece.
You posted here to ask what do members think of your work? You wanted to know if members think they look good. These are art pieces. They are made and would be sold as art pieces not simply as lumps of silver. 

If you want to keep the pieces for yourself or sell them to customers outside the UK there is no need for hallmarking. Otherwise you need hallmarking. You might get away with it for a while but if you made a success of what you do then it would eventually come back to bite you.

PS. i think you have the makings of making your work a success - if you want to take it further start thinking about your hallmark.

[sixgun]

2 hours ago, Dking90 said:

Even if you’ sell it as art? 
🧐

If when you sell them you do not advertise them as silver. Silver never comes into it. But you took the time to stamp 999 on them. Is that a reminder of the emergency services telephone number or is it b/c it is 999 silver?
i am making a joke of it but there is no way round this - these are 999 pure silver art pieces and so have to be hallmarked if sold in the UK.

[Dking90]

4 minutes ago, sixgun said:

If when you sell them you do not advertise them as silver. Silver never comes into it. But you took the time to stamp 999 on them. Is that a reminder of the emergency services telephone number or is it b/c it is 999 silver?
i am making a joke of it but there is no way round this - these are 999 pure silver art pieces and so have to be hallmarked if sold in the UK.

It’s a shame as that will drive up the cost but makes sense to keep everyone safe of the legitimacy of the silver quantity 👍🏻 I may just keep them for myself 😁😁

thank you for your time 

@sixgun

and 

@BackyardBullion

[sixgun]

Now let me post a post recently made by @StBeesSilver

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Posted January 6

Since this topic was posted I have registered with a hallmarking company and also sought information from two other assay offices in relation to bars and hallmarking as it is mostly bars that I produce. 

All three assay offices were unanimous in their replies to the question,  does a silver hand poured and hammered bar require hallmarks?

In short - no.

A bar is a bar irrespective of its price, of how it was made, how long it took to make and also its aesthetics. 

A bar is a bar.

As assay companies, I would believe that their knowledge of the law in respect to silver bars is sound, and not based on 'interpretations', and , ' in my opinions'.

As to any other type of poured silver, figures etc, then all I could offer is my opinions but the law doesnt take those into account. 

I would suggest that anyone wanting some clarification about such items should do as I have done and ask the horse. 

I do agree that hallmarking is a  valuable asset to any silver and any manufacturer of silver items and does indeed provide the customer with a high level of peace of mind, and was always my goal to have them, which I now do. A proud moment for me. Small things.

Happy new year to all, I hope it's a better one than last. 

SBS🙂

Now i disagree with this - but SBS says he has spoken to assay offices.

No it is not per say the silver being in the shape of a bar which exempts it from having to be hallmarked. The shape is irrelevant. What does the Hallmarking Act 1973 say about pieces of silver that are exempt from hallmarking?

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7. Any raw material (including any bar, plate, sheet, foil, rod, wire, strip or tube) or bullion.

The silver can be in many shapes - a bar, a flat plate, a rod, etc etc. It is that the silver is produced and sold as RAW MATERIAL. A decorative piece someone has worked on for hours to look nice which happens to be in the shape of a 'bar' is not sold as raw material.

So is it bullion? i say no it is not bullion - is the bar or whatever being sold simply for its weight in silver? Why the devil hammer it 100's of times, antiqued it and sell it at a big premium to spot if it is just bullion? We know what bullion silver bars look like and that is not a hammered piece that has been antiqued to look nice - they have the brand, weight, purity stamped on but they are not intended to be a decorative piece. i would say the three assay offices are misinterpreting the legislation. But they are the assay offices and what they say legally counts a lot more than me.

The best way round this is like StBeesSilver to contact the local assay office with photos of the pieces and ask them. Then keep the reply for your records.

[StBeesSilver]

Couldnt have said it better myself😉

[Mrbusiness]

Nice job. Looks marketable.