Silver price about to plummet

[Wackattak924]

After reading everything said in this thread I have come to the conclusion that..... The world is flat! I have no doubt about it now. 

[sixgun]

If look at the Vimeo page for Nick Rockefeller - these Chinese videos are on Vimeo, we see this. No followers - No likes - Hmmm this is all looking a bit odd, like a made up character.

[SiliconToad]

15 minutes ago, Wackattak924 said:

After reading everything said in this thread I have come to the conclusion that..... The world is flat! I have no doubt about it now. 

Didn't you see the flat-earth coin BYB showcased on Youtube not long ago? The signs have been written in silver, my friend!

[FoolzGold]

Well @Wonger has certainly achieved something here - he's made @sixgun look like he's just another of the 'sheeple' being deceived by the 'man'. I'd doff my tinfoil hat to you, but I'm afraid it might dislodge my lizard-person mask. 🙄

[silversky]

6 hours ago, KDave said:

I thought that was a hypothetical I didn't realise it had occurred in the past. My understanding is if you buy vaulted gold you own it and it will be returned to you if the company goes under. No doubt at extremely high delivery cost. If you don't hold it you don't own it is true, buying vaulted gold is similar to depositing gold for currency in the past, you only held a claim on the wealth which was worthless after a bank run. 

Sure has.  Was backed by very influential people as well.

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-01-01/trail-dubais-stolen-gold-client-breaks-silence-and-fascinating-detail-emerges

Check this out next time you're tempted to let someone else hold on to your physical for you.  I only had a small amount with them and for fun took delivery of it about two months before this happened.  I'd never held any physically before and decided it would be fun to look at.  I was completely oblivious to what happened shortly after until I found out six months later.  These things go down in near secrecy and the sordid details get hushed up.  Strange because it was so well known and had been running a totally legit business in physical for a long time.  Seemed to have state level support with outlets in big hotels etc with their own minting and branding.  Close call for me and I will never forget the lesson.  When banks and large institutions go under the little guy is always last to know and always gets the shaft.  There is no state protection for him no matter what is implied.  Ever.  And that includes your bank account if SHTF by the way.

[sixgun]

@Wonger can you find Nick Rockefeller on the Rockefeller family tree?
Is he mentioned in any of the Rockefeller biographies?
Is there any evidence he is connected to 'the Rockefellers'?

This so called Nick Rockefeller has been looked at - i tried to dig him out b/c my first question on watching this video when it came out was who the hell is Nick Rockefeller? - i drew a blank - my best guess is he is a distant relative riding on the fame of The Rockefellers or he is simply a con man.  As far as i remember this interview i do not disagree with what he said but that Nick Rockefeller is a member of the elite - that bird just doesn't fly. i wonder if Russo got conned or the audience got conned by this 'story' between the Hollywood film maker and the CIA asset. There is a con in there some where.

It is most interesting that Russo talked about chipping people. i have posted here about this several times. i believe there will be stories of children being abducted and horribly mutilated and then a child with a chip will be found and saved. Then parents will be falling over themselves to chip their kids. i saw a video just this morning from Barcelona about The Mobile World Congress 25-28 February 2019 where a man was chipped on stage.

https://www.thenews.com.pk/latest/437210-man-gets-live-under-skin-chip-implant-at-mobile-fair

This really is the Mark of the beast.

[Pipers]

F-ckin hell sixgun you don,t half grill people. 

Anyway I am 50-50 on the ukp usd trade I have no idea how it will go!

[Wonger]

37 minutes ago, sixgun said:

@Wonger can you find Nick Rockefeller on the Rockefeller family tree?
Is he mentioned in any of the Rockefeller biographies?
Is there any evidence he is connected to 'the Rockefellers'?

This so called Nick Rockefeller has been looked at - i tried to dig him out b/c my first question on watching this video when it came out was who the hell is Nick Rockefeller? - i drew a blank - my best guess is he is a distant relative riding on the fame of The Rockefellers or he is simply a con man.  As far as i remember this interview i do not disagree with what he said but that Nick Rockefeller is a member of the elite - that bird just doesn't fly. i wonder if Russo got conned or the audience got conned by this 'story' between the Hollywood film maker and the CIA asset. There is a con in there some where.

It is most interesting that Russo talked about chipping people. i have posted here about this several times. i believe there will be stories of children being abducted and horribly mutilated and then a child with a chip will be found and saved. Then parents will be falling over themselves to chip their kids. i saw a video just this morning from Barcelona about The Mobile World Congress 25-28 February 2019 where a man was chipped on stage.

https://www.thenews.com.pk/latest/437210-man-gets-live-under-skin-chip-implant-at-mobile-fair

This really is the Mark of the beast.

Nicholas Rockefeller

His securities practice includes litigation before the United States Supreme Court and a number of his transactions have been featured in leading periodicals. He is a member of the Council on Foreign Relations, the International Insitutute of Strategic Studies, the Advisory Board of RAND, the Pacific Council on International Policy, the Committee on Foreign Relations in Los Angeles, the Western Justice Center, and has served as a participant in the World Economic Forum and the Aspen Institute. He is a member of the Board of Visitors of the Law Schools of the University of Oregon and Pepperdine University and is active in the affairs of his alma mater, Yale University. He recently chaired a panel at the United Nations on E-Commerce and is a co-author of "Economic Strategy and National Security". Nicholas' China practice includes transactions with China’s largest banks, energy companies, communications entities and real estate enterprises as well as with China's principal cities and leading provinces. He was chosen as a board member of the Central China Construction and Development Commission and as a director of the Xiwai International School of Shanghai International University. He has appeared numerous times on CCTV and other China media. Nicholas is a graduate of Yale University and of Yale Law School.

[Wonger]

The Money Masters 1996 FULL DOCUMENTARY

 

[sixgun]

You have copied and pasted from the website i presented to you. This is proof of nothing other than you can copy and paste.

This is a two page website for the 'Nicholas Rockefeller Organization'. Have you tried to check out any of the claims you have posted?

The  Xiwai International School of Shanghai International University. link produces a 500 Internal Server Error

Then you follow the China media. link and you get to a youtube video from 11 years ago. Look at the comments - people asking who is Nick Rockefeller?

If you want to be a conspiracy analyst you need to analyse this stuff.

[FoolzGold]

This thread is all over the place, but the sub-thread on physical gold/silver holdings is an interesting one. My understanding would be that even if the company is completely legitimate and does really hold 'your' physical gold, if the company goes under your PM is not going to simply get returned to you and off you skip into the sunset. You would simply be one of many creditors of the assets held by the company and if you were lucky enough that the company's assets actually exceeded its debts you might eventually (some years later) be paid off with some portion of your original investment/holding, after all the corporate investors had been paid off of course.

[KDave]

4 minutes ago, FoolzGold said:

This thread is all over the place, but the sub-thread on physical gold/silver holdings is an interesting one. My understanding would be that even if the company is completely legitimate and does really hold 'your' physical gold, if the company goes under your PM is not going to simply get returned to you and off you skip into the sunset. You would simply be one of many creditors of the assets held by the company and if you were lucky enough that the company's assets actually exceeded its debts you might eventually (some years later) be paid off with some portion of your original investment/holding, after all the corporate investors had been paid off of course.

In theory the gold and silver in the vaults would be yours if the company went bust so creditors would not be able to take anything you owned. What could they do;

1. Ask you to sell the gold to them at the price they offer (low)

2. Offer to deliver your gold to you at some extortionate price, that selling to them at the low offer price looks like a good deal. 

3. Charge you at new rate to keep your gold in what is now their vault, potentially extortionate prices per day in an attempt to force the sale at their chosen price.

No idea if any of that would fly legally but I don't fancy your chances getting out whole if a bullion bank goes bust for whatever reason. Not that it is likely, but it is possible and since this morning I learn there is a historical precedent for them doing so, even if ownership is legally more locked down today.  

[sixgun]

22 minutes ago, FoolzGold said:

This thread is all over the place, but the sub-thread on physical gold/silver holdings is an interesting one. My understanding would be that even if the company is completely legitimate and does really hold 'your' physical gold, if the company goes under your PM is not going to simply get returned to you and off you skip into the sunset. You would simply be one of many creditors of the assets held by the company and if you were lucky enough that the company's assets actually exceeded its debts you might eventually (some years later) be paid off with some portion of your original investment/holding, after all the corporate investors had been paid off of course.

In the summer of 2017 i was all fired up about the new BullionCoin digital currency that was going to be launched. This was a partnership between BullionCoin and the Allocated Bullion Exchange. The partner ship never sailed as there was a bust up at the 11th hour, well at the 59th minute of the 11th hour.

The basis of BullionCoin was that precious metal held in the Allocated Bullion Exchange system would have title of ownership recorded on the distributed ledger system (the blockchain). The problem was BullionCoin wanted the precious metal to be part of company assets and the ABX said no - the metal must belong to those who own the BullionCoins.

This is a very fundamental difference. In the system BullionCoin wanted you would simply have a claim on the metal but not title over the metal. Creditors of the company ahead of you could claim the metal and you could be left holding the baby.

If members ever want to get involved in the digital currencies backed by precious metal or anything else for that matter they should check who owns the metal. If you only have a claim on metal in a list of claimants then walk away. When you deposit currency in the bank you give it to the bank. You then only have a claim on the currency. If the bank goes down you could and likely would end up with nothing.

 

[SiliconToad]

4 minutes ago, KDave said:

In theory the gold and silver in the vaults would be yours if the company went bust so creditors would not be able to take anything you owned.  

Wouldn't make assumptions, very likely to depend on the terms of the specific institution. And during a liquidation due to insolvency, even if you had a contract in your favor, it could very well go in front of a bankruptcy judge to make the final call (here in the USA, at least). The creditors will likely have a legal team to pursue their interests. 

[KDave]

15 minutes ago, SiliconToad said:

Wouldn't make assumptions, very likely to depend on the terms of the specific institution. And during a liquidation due to insolvency, even if you had a contract in your favor, it could very well go in front of a bankruptcy judge to make the final call (here in the USA, at least). The creditors will likely have a legal team to pursue their interests. 

When I used bullion vault I remember reading this was the case, how water tight it is who knows like you say. I also think even if it was the case the metals were yours, the creditors would get the money from you one way or another and every unlikely one would come out whole. 

[Wonger]

2 hours ago, sixgun said:

You have copied and pasted from the website i presented to you. This is proof of nothing other than you can copy and paste.

This is a two page website for the 'Nicholas Rockefeller Organization'. Have you tried to check out any of the claims you have posted?

The  Xiwai International School of Shanghai International University. link produces a 500 Internal Server Error

Then you follow the China media. link and you get to a youtube video from 11 years ago. Look at the comments - people asking who is Nick Rockefeller?

If you want to be a conspiracy analyst you need to analyse this stuff.

You asked who Nicholas Rockefeller was and what he did and I posted that information for you,  you even tried to doubt his very existence, I suggest its you who needs to analyse further if you want to play in this league and plenty of it by some of your replies which I find rather amusing especially the way you confuse CCTV with China Central Television!

CCTV channels. Broadcast since 1 May 1958, China Central Television (CCTV) has17 channels plus an additional five channels of different languages broadcast from China and across the globe. All CCTV channels are broadcast around the world through satellite broadcast and on Internet television.

  

[sixgun]

2 minutes ago, Wonger said:

You asked who Nicholas Rockefeller was and what he did and I posted that information for you,  you even tried to doubt his very existence, I suggest its you who needs to analyse further if you want to play in this league and plenty of it by some of your replies which I find rather amusing!  

No you copied and pasted contents of the frontpage of the website i sent you the URL for. You did no research for yourself.

As i said the members of the forum have the measure of you now and i expect from your replies they find it rather amusing.

[Guest]

40 minutes ago, Wonger said:

You asked who Nicholas Rockefeller was and what he did and I posted that information for you,  you even tried to doubt his very existence, I suggest its you who needs to analyse further if you want to play in this league and plenty of it by some of your replies which I find rather amusing especially the way you confuse CCTV with China Central Television!

CCTV channels. Broadcast since 1 May 1958, China Central Television (CCTV) has17 channels plus an additional five channels of different languages broadcast from China and across the globe. All CCTV channels are broadcast around the world through satellite broadcast and on Internet television.

  

 

[Guest]

15 minutes ago, sixgun said:

No you copied and pasted contents of the frontpage of the website i sent you the URL for. You did no research for yourself.

As i said the members of the forum have the measure of you now and i expect from your replies they find it rather amusing.

We are amused.

[Wonger]

9 minutes ago, sixgun said:

No you copied and pasted contents of the frontpage of the website i sent you the URL for. You did no research for yourself.

As i said the members of the forum have the measure of you now and i expect from your replies they find it rather amusing.

If you prefer that Nicholas Rockefeller was not a contact of Aaron Rouse and that Aaron Rouse is lying and Nicholas Rockefeller does not even exist and CCTV is not China Central Television but CCTV cameras, then that is entirely your decision to make public on these boards. 

[Roy]

@Wonger

@sixgun is the forum nut-job, the position has already been filled.

He is also very well read, highly informed and respectful to those with differing opinions. He will always back up/quote his sources.

He is also wrong on many topics but we don't need to open that box today. 😉

Enjoy sparring with him but expect a bloody lip 😁

 

 

[sixgun]

10 minutes ago, Wonger said:

If you prefer that Nicholas Rockefeller was not a contact of Aaron Rouse and that Aaron Rouse is lying and Nicholas Rockefeller does not even exist and CCTV is not China Central Television but CCTV cameras, then that is entirely your decision to make public on these boards. 

We only have Aaron Russo's word - was that a Freudian slip Aaron Rouse (pronounced Ruse - meaning trick).

This is not the issue, it is that this so called Nicholas Rockefeller is being presented as part of the multi-trillionaire David Rockefeller clan. At the time the infowars video was put out people started asking questions about Nicholas Rockefeller who does not appear in the Rockefeller family tree but is presented as if he does. He has a crappy little website which appears even crappier since as it has not been updated and still no-one has heard of him. Now i did track down a Nicholas Rockefeller to members of the Council on Foreign Relations although he does not appear when you do a search of rand.org although the website has it he is a member of an advisory committee.

You are trying to misrepresent what i said - i said it looks like this is a made up character - that does not mean Nicholas Rockefeller does not exist. - i can makeup a persona for myself - this guy is presented as being on the inside track with David Rockefeller (now deceased) when the evidence hardly supports that. You should be aware the Nicholas Rockefeller man has been scrutonised and doesn't match up to an elite inside track persona presented.

The CCTV was me being cynical at this BS Nicholas Rockefeller story. Aaron Russo may have been flat out lying. Do you know he wasn't? As i say the Nicholas Rockefeller character doesn't match what we see in reality but it does make a good story.

[Wonger]

8 minutes ago, sixgun said:

We only have Aaron Russo's word - was that a Freudian slip Aaron Rouse (pronounced Ruse - meaning trick).

This is not the issue, it is that this so called Nicholas Rockefeller is being presented as part of the multi-trillionaire David Rockefeller clan. At the time the infowars video was put out people started asking questions about Nicholas Rockefeller who does not appear in the Rockefeller family tree but is presented as if he does. He has a crappy little website which appears even crappier since as it has not been updated and still no-one has heard of him. Now i did track down a Nicholas Rockefeller to members of the Council on Foreign Relations although he does not appear when you do a search of rand.org although the website has it he is a member of an advisory committee.

You are trying to misrepresent what i said - i said it looks like this is a made up character - that does not mean Nicholas Rockefeller does not exist. - i can makeup a persona for myself - this guy is presented as being on the inside track with David Rockefeller (now deceased) when the evidence hardly supports that. You should be aware the Nicholas Rockefeller man has been scrutonised and doesn't match up to an elite inside track persona presented.

The CCTV was me being cynical at this BS Nicholas Rockefeller story. Aaron Russo may have been flat out lying. Do you know he wasn't? As i say the Nicholas Rockefeller character doesn't match what we see in reality but it does make a good story.

Ah I see, so S&P Global Market intelligence have it all wrong and his a fictional character who was not a member of the CFR as he did not even exist, if I were you I would stop digging yourself into a hole you already can not climb out!  😀

[sixgun]

5 minutes ago, Wonger said:

Ah I see, so S&P Global Market intelligence have it all wrong and his a fictional character who was not a member of the CFR as he did not even exist, if I were you I would stop digging yourself into a hole you already can not climb out!  😀

You fail or perhaps feign to understand the difference between a persona and a person. You will be coming out in Australia very soon if you keep going. Good luck.

[Wonger]

21 minutes ago, sixgun said:

You fail or perhaps feign to understand the difference between a persona and a person. You will be coming out in Australia very soon if you keep going. Good luck.

Care to elaborate on that? 😀