30th Birthday Present Ideas

[Kman]

It's my brothers 30th Birthday soon

 

I was thinking of getting him one of the following

 

1. 1/4 oz gold coin & Bitcoin
2. A Sovereign, maybe 1984 if I can get one or a 2014 & Bitcoin
3. 1/2 oz gold coin

 

He isn't really interested in gold or bitcoin atm, I think only because he doesn't know too much about them, but he is interested in investments so I think if I gave him one of the above he would appreciate it 

 

My trouble is I'm not sure what exactly to get him if I go with the 1/4 or 1/2 option

 

I'm more leaning towards a 9.999 gold coin atm over a sovereign unless I can get a mint condition 1984

 

Maybe a 2014 Kangaroo or Lunar Horse as they're both nice looking coins

 

It's a shame they don't do 9.999 1/4 Britannia

 

What do you guys think?

 

Is there any 1/4 oz that has more chance or rising in numismatic value than just the spot gold price. 

 

Cheers

[DrDime]

I would go for 1) or 2) - I think 22k is good for a non coin collector because it takes less looking after and he can play with it. 1/4oz krugerrand

[HelpingHands]

What lunar year is he?  I'm guessing it'll be hard to find a gold ox or whatever he is.

[HelpingHands]

Lunar silver kilo now I've had 3 seconds to think about it.

[garthy]

I wish you were my brother, mine got me 6 pairs of socks and left the sports direct stickers on.

 

here's a 1984 proof sovereign

 

http://www.goldsovereigns.co.uk/1984sovereign.php

[Kman]

I would go for 1) or 2) - I think 22k is good for a non coin collector because it takes less looking after and he can play with it. 1/4oz krugerrand

 

I think I would go with a sovereign should it be 22k, keep it British *waves flag and hums the national anthem* lol.

 

Lunar silver kilo now I've had 3 seconds to think about it.

 

Silvers just not as impressive as a present   to everyday folk anyway. 

[Kman]

I wish you were my brother, mine got me 6 pairs of socks and left the sports direct stickers on.

 

here's a 1984 proof sovereign

 

http://www.goldsovereigns.co.uk/1984sovereign.php

 

Is there any reason the price on a 1984 should be £50 above a 2014? I know it's 30 years old but it's not old enough to value that much surely. 

 

I googled other years

 

1981 for exmaple is £218 vs 1984 £241

 

Do they just hike up the price for a year because they know it's a potential 30th birthday present 

[garthy]

Is there any reason the price on a 1984 should be £50 above a 2014? I know it's 30 years old but it's not old enough to value that much surely. 

 

I googled other years

 

1981 for exmaple is £218 vs 1984 £241

 

Do they just hike up the price for a year because they know it's a potential 30th birthday present 

 

I believe it's because that's a proof sovereign, you could probably find a uncirculated one for cheaper but the finish wont be so good.

[HawkHybrid]

depends on how long you've got, I think there's a place

that strikes medals/tokens if you give them your design.

(tell him it's a limited edition commemorative  )

 

HH

[garthy]

Just been reading that there was no circulated 1984 sovereign only a proof one, I'm not sure why?

[mr-dead]

what about a sliver casascius coin, combines the BTC with the PM.

[HighlandTiger]

Just been reading that there was no circulated 1984 sovereign only a proof one, I'm not sure why?

From 1983 to 1999 the Royal MInt had stopped making bullion Gold Sovs, and only did proofs. With mintages as low as 7500 a year

 

They restarted in 2000 making bullion sovs and went from 10,000 proofs in 1999 to 129,069 circulated sovs in 2000

 

 

I was lucky to get a 1997 half sov when I ordered two random half sovs from atkinsons. The 1997 half sov turns out to also be a proof with a 7500 mintage as well. Nice bonus from atkinsons I thought

[silversword]

Reading this, I cannot help wondering whether a coin (either gold or bitcoin) would be an ideal present for someone who has no stated interest in them. I know some people are a bit excited about BTC on here but as a present it's a bit... well, shit (IMO). It isn't even tangible; you might as well give some gift vouchers. A gold coin is nice, but unless it's the year of his birth it would be of no special significance and I can't see a non-UK one holding much attraction for a Brit if they aren't remotely interested in coins. Dunno, maybe I'm wrong but you asked for opinions. 

[DrDime]

"it's a bit... well, shit (IMO)" :-o

[Kman]

Reading this, I cannot help wondering whether a coin (either gold or bitcoin) would be an ideal present for someone who has no stated interest in them. I know some people are a bit excited about BTC on here but as a present it's a bit... well, shit (IMO). It isn't even tangible; you might as well give some gift vouchers. A gold coin is nice, but unless it's the year of his birth it would be of no special significance and I can't see a non-UK one holding much attraction for a Brit if they aren't remotely interested in coins. Dunno, maybe I'm wrong but you asked for opinions. 

 

Well, I wont be surprising you on your birthday 

 

The significance to both is they're little investments that will hopefully appreciate in value in time

 

My brother is a lot like me, so I know he will like them, even if he doesn't know it yet. 

[Danny-boy]

Have you thought about a big fat lump of silver?

Bit more "weighty" than gold & BTC.

[HelpingHands]

Reading this, I cannot help wondering whether a coin (either gold or bitcoin) would be an ideal present for someone

Most people are surprised when they see a giant coin though that's why I recommended a silver kilo of his lunar year.

[Kman]

Have you thought about a big fat lump of silver?

Bit more "weighty" than gold & BTC.

 

Silver is off the table, I would get it maybe if it complemented a gold coin but not as the main present. 

[StackemHigh]

I would go for two full sovs both 1984 in a presentation box and caps. One showing obverse side and the other showing the reverse side.

[Kman]

I would go for two full sovs both 1984 in a presentation box and caps. One showing obverse side and the other showing the reverse side.

I don't know

 

Really I want to give them as an investment

 

Paying well over spot for a coin that isn't going to really appreciate in value down the years seems not great

 

I think I would rather go towards pure investment than dates to be sentimental 

[StackemHigh]

Wealth protection.

 

The value of investments can go up, can go down.

 

Sovs stay pretty much at the same level.

 

I wouldn't like anybody to come back to me sayin, "That gift you got me last year is worth Feck All".

 

If the % is too high a couple of this years would still fit the bill or one of each a 1984 and 2014.

[Kman]

I'm actually starting to lean towards 1/4oz Lunar Horse

[Kman]

I'm actually starting to lean towards 1/4oz Lunar Horse

 

I did go with the horse

 

Just for the pure investment aspect of it & it's a nice looking coin

 

So finalised at that and a bitcoin. 

[Kman]

So just had him round for a BBQ, gave him his presents

 

I actually put £10 in the card and pretended that is all I had got him  lol

 

Then gave him his real presents (took the £10 back of course  )

 

He seemed very pleased, asked if it was real gold lol, took a minute to explain what bitcoin is but he was very interested

 

So all went down very well