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47 minutes ago, Silverman2U said:

Great numbered certificate too!!! ;) image.thumb.jpg.eb765e314170367e270c9f8a6e7d37e1.jpg

How strange! Does that suggest the first numbered COA (001) doesn't necessarily go to the first person to place an order, or might someone else have returned it for whatever reason?

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4 minutes ago, Richiesilver said:

More uncirculated Venezuela treasure and sad reminders of the present! Guess which ones are still holding their purchasing power.......

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Least if theres another bog roll crisis, youve something to wipe ya arris on it!

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On 04/11/2021 at 14:32, Pete said:

You don't expect tarnish on 9999 silver that is only a few years old so this coin has been exposed to a pretty bad atmosphere generally involving lots of smoke.
You might see this if the owner kept it next to his pipe or it was found in a drawer in a house that caught fire once.
S.P. should be ashamed selling a coin in this condition unless it was specifically described as heavily tarnished as this is definitely not normal for a coin this age.

Silver tarnishes. Fact of life. And Chemistry. 🙂

I wrote a blog page about it:

https://www.chards.co.uk/blog/coin-toning/232

I think the page was ported over from a similar page on one of our heritage sites.

Chards

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On 04/11/2021 at 14:44, Gypsy said:

Iv been in touch with the company I bought it from. They are dealing with it. 

 

On 04/11/2021 at 14:39, Pete said:

If the coins are not what is on the CoA then I would be asking questions as it's like telling the police you have a valid MOT but only to find out later it is for another car.
See what they say !!

 

On 04/11/2021 at 12:37, Gypsy said:

Received this  9 set half sovereign by the RM. ashame 2 coins are of a different date from the coa. Nevertheless the coins look immaculate. 

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From your OP, I thought you had bought it from the Royal Mint, but your later post sounds like you bought it elsewhere, which is much more sensible IMO.

It is possible that it was correct when the RM sold it, but has been swapped around since. It is a little dumb for your supplier not to have checked.

I hope it wasn't @ChardsCoinandBullionDealer😎

Chards

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6 minutes ago, LawrenceChard said:

 

 

From your OP, I thought you had bought it from the Royal Mint, but your later post sounds like you bought it elsewhere, which is much more sensible IMO.

It is possible that it was correct when the RM sold it, but has been swapped around since. It is a little dumb for your supplier not to have checked.

I hope it wasn't @ChardsCoinandBullionDealer😎

Hi Lawrence (I hope it’s Lawrence) - just a quick question please? I was looking at your website and saw a description of a Gold 1oz Britannia coin as ‘minty’ - forgive my ignorance but what does that mean please..?

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Today I received a couple of "vintage" Perth Mint Koalas from @jultorsk - PERFECT condition - thanks
I also received the latest 2022 Chinese Panda from @Pandao - PERFECT condition - thanks

In my 3rd package today were 2 brand new 2022 Britannias purchased from Atkinsons - thanks for a fast service - BUT NO CREDIT to our Royal Mint - you decide !!!
Left - a scuff mark across the entire obverse nose to ear.
Right - multiple scattered small pits ( not dust ).
Reverses on both were unmarked.

These were purchased for my boxed sets so I was hoping for very good condition.
Makes me seriously think about discontinuing with the Brit sets having collected all the Britannia's so far.
Such a shame and no credit whatsoever to our Royal Mint compared to most other mints issuing bullion.

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31 minutes ago, lst65 said:

Hi Lawrence (I hope it’s Lawrence) - just a quick question please? I was looking at your website and saw a description of a Gold 1oz Britannia coin as ‘minty’ - forgive my ignorance but what does that mean please..?

I think he sprays them with something to stop them from smelling... 🤣

It does not matter how slowly you go so long as you do not stop.

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3 minutes ago, MaxeBaumann said:

Today something nice came into my collection again. I love the excellent quality of the Polish mint Germania Mint.
Maxe wishes all silver friends a nice weekend.

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very nice

It does not matter how slowly you go so long as you do not stop.

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15 minutes ago, lst65 said:

Hi Lawrence (I hope it’s Lawrence) - just a quick question please? I was looking at your website and saw a description of a Gold 1oz Britannia coin as ‘minty’ - forgive my ignorance but what does that mean please..?

Hi,

It is indeed Lawrence (as in Arabia, there is a lot of sand in Blackpool).

I was going to post a link to our "Minty" blog page containing our definition and explanation, but...

There isn't one!!!

I will tag @ChardsCoinandBullionDealer into this thread, and hopefully one will appear as if by magic in a few days.

If we were doing it right every page using the word "Minty" would have it as a link to a page explaining it, instead of leaving people to guess or work it out for themselves. this should also happen soon, with a bit of luck.

Meanwhile I did find this:

Minty - Minty coins are our hand-picked selection of bullion coins that are in mint condition and usually, but not always, have been minted in recent years. To read more about minty coins, read our blog here. (on this page: https://www.chards.co.uk/blog/coin-grading-uk-cgs-pcgs-ngc-uk-and-us/79).

The "here" link on it goes to this page:

https://www.chards.co.uk/blog/bullion-coin-types-available-from-chards/762

which says:

Minty and Newly Minted 
Minty coins have now superseeded our newly minted range. There is no difference in the quality of coin as they remain in mint condition (sometimes in the original packaging). Newly minted coins had usually been issued in the last 5 years whereas our new product includes backdated coins that remain in great condition. For example, we have the 2002 gold sovereigns in original packaging that remain in mint condition. We have been known to issue the latest year coin for this product but this is not a guarantee, in cases where it is supplied it has been done as a free upgrade as the latest year coin demands a higher premium.

We wish to remind customers that this bullion option is cheaper than the respective latest year of coin and therefore may take longer to source. On a daily basis we look to buy from our suppliers which are a mix of mints, bullion dealers, companies and private investors to source these products for you in the fastest time possible. Should you wish for a faster delivery, please choose the latest year of coin. 

In both cases these coins are in "as minted" condition. Please note that even mint condition does not necessarily indicate perfection. Those wanting perfection should consider buying proof sovereigns, but these are issued at considerably higher premiums, and should not be considered a gold bullion investment.

We have the following minty products available to buy:...

Using the word "here" as a link is sub-optimal (dumb).

And, the link should ideally have been to a blog page of its own exclusively about "Minty".

Now you might think I am being slightly insensitive to and about our staff, bu pointing the above out publicly, but it's not all one-sided.

It took me about a year to convince some of my colleagues to start using "Minty". When they see this, some of them will say "We told you so"

BTW According to the Royal Mint, it is a Registered trade Mark:

https://www.trademarkelite.com/uk/trademark/trademark-detail/UK00003376718/MINTY

We did write to them to point out that "minty" has been in common(ish) use by coin dealers for many years, and that we intended to start using it formally as a coin grade description, and received a nice response stating they had no objection to us using it. Otherwise, I was going to object to their registering it as a trademark.

I hope this helps, and thanks for bringing it to my / our attention. 🙂

 

 

Chards

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12 minutes ago, Pete said:

 

In my 3rd package today were 2 brand new 2022 Britannias purchased from Atkinsons - thanks for a fast service - BUT NO CREDIT to our Royal Mint - you decide !!!
Left - a scuff mark across the entire obverse nose to ear.
Right - multiple scattered small pits ( not dust ).
Reverses on both were unmarked.

These were purchased for my boxed sets so I was hoping for very good condition.
Makes me seriously think about discontinuing with the Brit sets having collected all the Britannia's so far.
Such a shame and no credit whatsoever to our Royal Mint compared to most other mints issuing bullion.

    

I posted a comment about the bagmarks and scuffs a few days ago, basically saying it might be difficult or impossible to find any slabbable as MS70 or near.

My guess is the RM want you to buy a proof if you want near perfect.

Some years ago, they did use to market a B.U. version of their bullion sovereigns, whcih I think they reserved as their own direct purchase exclusive (anti-competitive). Obviously they charged more for them, but it did give people and extra choice.

Unfortunately, but quite typically, I saw some B.U. ones which were obviously not B.U., but only bullion, and it seems like nobody at the RM knew or understood the difference.

😎

Chards

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2 minutes ago, LawrenceChard said:

Yes, paper does have some advantages over plastic! 😎

Humbly disagree. 

With paper "it's a use once type instrument "

But with plastic, I can give it a quick wipe and use tomorrow again 🙈

I like to buy the pre-dip dip

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1 hour ago, Gordy said:

I think he sprays them with something to stop them from smelling... 🤣

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1 hour ago, LawrenceChard said:

Hi,

It is indeed Lawrence (as in Arabia, there is a lot of sand in Blackpool).

I was going to post a link to our "Minty" blog page containing our definition and explanation, but...

There isn't one!!!

I will tag @ChardsCoinandBullionDealer into this thread, and hopefully one will appear as if by magic in a few days.

If we were doing it right every page using the word "Minty" would have it as a link to a page explaining it, instead of leaving people to guess or work it out for themselves. this should also happen soon, with a bit of luck.

Meanwhile I did find this:

Minty - Minty coins are our hand-picked selection of bullion coins that are in mint condition and usually, but not always, have been minted in recent years. To read more about minty coins, read our blog here. (on this page: https://www.chards.co.uk/blog/coin-grading-uk-cgs-pcgs-ngc-uk-and-us/79).

The "here" link on it goes to this page:

https://www.chards.co.uk/blog/bullion-coin-types-available-from-chards/762

which says:

Minty and Newly Minted 
Minty coins have now superseeded our newly minted range. There is no difference in the quality of coin as they remain in mint condition (sometimes in the original packaging). Newly minted coins had usually been issued in the last 5 years whereas our new product includes backdated coins that remain in great condition. For example, we have the 2002 gold sovereigns in original packaging that remain in mint condition. We have been known to issue the latest year coin for this product but this is not a guarantee, in cases where it is supplied it has been done as a free upgrade as the latest year coin demands a higher premium.

We wish to remind customers that this bullion option is cheaper than the respective latest year of coin and therefore may take longer to source. On a daily basis we look to buy from our suppliers which are a mix of mints, bullion dealers, companies and private investors to source these products for you in the fastest time possible. Should you wish for a faster delivery, please choose the latest year of coin. 

In both cases these coins are in "as minted" condition. Please note that even mint condition does not necessarily indicate perfection. Those wanting perfection should consider buying proof sovereigns, but these are issued at considerably higher premiums, and should not be considered a gold bullion investment.

We have the following minty products available to buy:...

Using the word "here" as a link is sub-optimal (dumb).

And, the link should ideally have been to a blog page of its own exclusively about "Minty".

Now you might think I am being slightly insensitive to and about our staff, bu pointing the above out publicly, but it's not all one-sided.

It took me about a year to convince some of my colleagues to start using "Minty". When they see this, some of them will say "We told you so"

BTW According to the Royal Mint, it is a Registered trade Mark:

https://www.trademarkelite.com/uk/trademark/trademark-detail/UK00003376718/MINTY

We did write to them to point out that "minty" has been in common(ish) use by coin dealers for many years, and that we intended to start using it formally as a coin grade description, and received a nice response stating they had no objection to us using it. Otherwise, I was going to object to their registering it as a trademark.

I hope this helps, and thanks for bringing it to my / our attention. 🙂

 

 

Thanks so much Lawrence - that really helps. Promise you that it wasn’t a critical question, just me being a newbie and trying to navigate this wonderful (new) world of Gold and Silver. 😊 Thanks again. 🙏

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