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dicker got a reaction from Chrisplym in Coins of the realm auction…
It’s a good auction with zero buyers fees which is very attractive.
Frequently coins up for auction that are of interest to me and the customer service is great. Particularly on the phone!
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dicker reacted to Arganto in My 1887 Quintuple Jubilee Sovereign
In my humble opinion that's likely had a file (well, three) across it, possibly it's been to three separate pawn shops, the second and third of which thought the previous mark/marks were suss? Edge knocks happen, but for a trio to appear in the same area up against the idea of non-experts testing for a fake gold coin...?
It's unfortunate whatever the truth, that said if it's real it's still a nice looking coin🌞
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dicker reacted to Booky586 in My 1887 Quintuple Jubilee Sovereign
The last photo shows off its lovely "proof like" appearance
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dicker reacted to LawrenceChard in My 1887 Quintuple Jubilee Sovereign
Now, that looks like real Quality Street!
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Jeweller's file more like!
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dicker reacted to LawrenceChard in My 1887 Quintuple Jubilee Sovereign
It would help people to help you if you name the supplying dealer, and also the "central London dealer", otherwise we are all playing unnecessary guessing games.
You might also be shocked at the number of dealers with "very good reputations", who make mistakes and / or sell fakes with little care for accuracy or their reputation.
For example:
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dicker reacted to Zhorro in My 1887 Quintuple Jubilee Sovereign
If they are file marks then I think it would get a "details" grade if it went in for grading - but then you would know for certain whether it is genuine.
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dicker reacted to James32 in My 1887 Quintuple Jubilee Sovereign
Was exactly my thoughts, looks like 3 x file marks.
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dicker reacted to Spyder in My 1887 Quintuple Jubilee Sovereign
The dealer I originally bought it from has a very good reputation. Sadly retired now. Good honest and fair priced coin and stamp shops are starting to become a rarity nowadays as more retired due to ill health or age. I use to have the best. Would sell me coins at spot price, sometimes even under.
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dicker reacted to LawrenceChard in My 1887 Quintuple Jubilee Sovereign
The dealer may well have noticed edge knocks, but sometimes drawing attention to such things can needlessly antagonise a potential seller.
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dicker got a reaction from Zhorro in My 1887 Quintuple Jubilee Sovereign
There is another possibility with respect to the edge knocks…
Some unscrupulous people fill areas of coins. In the US it’s called “Coin Doctoring” and covers everything from chemically treating coins, through to disguising marks with dental wax and other fillers. Often these de-grade over time and the owner only realised years later (or after a coin has been graded)
It could be the case that your coin had been interfered with and the treatment it had received has dissolved or fallen away over time…
https://coinweek.com/opinion/commentary/the-specter-of-coin-doctoring-and-the-survival-of-great-coins-2/
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dicker reacted to LawrenceChard in My 1887 Quintuple Jubilee Sovereign
It would partly depend who the "central London dealer" was.
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dicker reacted to James32 in My 1887 Quintuple Jubilee Sovereign
Assuming you paid substantially less, even in it's current condition ( if geniune,and i mean geniune sovereign rather than geniune gold ) then use it as a trade up coin? Unless its your birth year..in which case, congratulations on both the coin and your incoming Guinness world record 😉
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dicker reacted to James32 in My 1887 Quintuple Jubilee Sovereign
Believe both @LawrenceChard @dicker are referring to it being a genuine sovereign, rather than questionable gold content.
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dicker got a reaction from James32 in My 1887 Quintuple Jubilee Sovereign
There is another possibility with respect to the edge knocks…
Some unscrupulous people fill areas of coins. In the US it’s called “Coin Doctoring” and covers everything from chemically treating coins, through to disguising marks with dental wax and other fillers. Often these de-grade over time and the owner only realised years later (or after a coin has been graded)
It could be the case that your coin had been interfered with and the treatment it had received has dissolved or fallen away over time…
https://coinweek.com/opinion/commentary/the-specter-of-coin-doctoring-and-the-survival-of-great-coins-2/
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dicker reacted to LawrenceChard in My 1887 Quintuple Jubilee Sovereign
Your first concern should be whether it is genuine, as @dicker mentioned in passing.
It is London Mint, not Sydney, and if you are not sure whether it is proof, then it will not be.
This is probably the most faked of all UK coins, followed closely by the 1887 double sovereign.
There are many obvious fakes, and also some difficult ones made in the 1970s, probably in Beirut.
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dicker reacted to GoldDiggerDave in My 1887 Quintuple Jubilee Sovereign
Fields are nice for the coin the heavy edge knocks are a detractor. These are always an “alarm bell” coin as @dicker pointed out there’s loads of fakes of these around.
For me I’d stick this in for grading but would be crossing my fingers if they would grade it due to the edge knocks.
If this is a coin you have inherited then you have nothing to lose getting the coin graded at either PCGS or the NGC
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dicker got a reaction from Silverlocks in My 1887 Quintuple Jubilee Sovereign
I think people would need to see the Rev and Obv to guesstimate a grade. The edge knocks will impact the grade.
I don’t grade coins at all, so I am biased but you may want to consider the following.
- Are you grading to establish that the coin is genuine? (this is a *very* heavily counterfeited coin?
- Do you simply want to know the grade?
- Are you grading to sell (linked to the first point)
I am in a phone on bumpy public transport and can’t see the pic super clearly, but I would guess it is Bullion but “Proof Like” as PCGS would put it - I have seen similar.
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Dicker
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dicker reacted to GoldDiggerDave in My 1887 Quintuple Jubilee Sovereign
To grade a coin it’s only possible when you can see both sides.
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dicker reacted to ChrisSilver in Please respect the forum's rules and your fellow member's trade topics
Firstly I have to point out that the vast majority of members are respectful to one another and respect other member's trade topic. So thank you to all of these members.
TSF has a policy against unsolicited comments in other members trade topics. Recently there has been a growing number of posts, and childish behaviour that has been slipping over from the non PM section into genuine trade topics of other member's, and completely derailing their sales topics and turning them into a joke. TSF is all up for members having a laugh and some banter and joking around, and it is why we specifically have a non PM section of the forum as well as this topic here, so members do have a section where they are allowed to discuss (nearly) anything and to joke around in. But member's trade topics where your fellow members are trying to trade in, is not the place.
Please remember that TSF is a business, with many professional dealers and industry representatives on as well as many serious collectors and investors. We are trying to grow the trade section for everyone. We would be grateful if you could please respect other forum members and our rule about unsolicited comments and treat the forum's trade section with seriousness as it is a place of trade.
In general I try not to interfere and like I said am all up for members having fun and a joke about (in the correct non PM section of the forum) but I have even had continual reports from a few long standing members who are not happy that the trade section is receiving a rise in such unsolicited comments and behaviour, which has resulted in several sellers sometimes withdrawing their items from sale. Again please try to contain yourself within the non PM section.
Unsolicited comments (such as pages and pages of members joking around in one trade topic) also unfairly bump such topics up, hiding other members trade topics as well as completely derailing and destroying the trade topic of the member who is just trying to sell their item(s). It is also very off-putting to new members, we wish to encourage new members and for TSF to grow.
Please see the forum's rule on unsolicited comments here:
Sellers who receive unsolicited comments in their trade topics, please report for moderator review. Trade topics may also be put into moderator approval queue, and/or warning points issued to accounts as the moderators see appropriate in order to uphold the forum's trade section.
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dicker reacted to HerefordBullyun in Who are our young stackers?
my son but I am his rep on here, hes 12 and has over 2kg of silver already....
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dicker reacted to trozau in Your Best Worst Coin - For Those Who Like 'em Rough
Not a flattering effigy of Bob Marley (due to the dreadlocks) but still one of my most treasured coins…
1995 Jamaica $100 Robert Marley gold
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dicker reacted to Orpster in "bullion" vs Ex-Mounted
Its hard to have a formula for this sort of thing and the market and the margins are ever moving,
A 5% over spot price on any sovereign is rare from dealers these days, even for best value sovereigns. And stock levels are super low and demand seems to be through the roof so premiums seem to be creeping up and up from dealers.
Where ex-mount is concerned I would pay a lot more than spot for a Guinea or a George IV half sovereign ex-mount or a double sovereign if it was not polished/harshly cleaned, but I would not even buy a 1905 (for example) for spot if it had been mounted if there was one speck of solder on the coin. A lot of mounts, those that hold the coin rather than use solder, do not really damage the coin but I find anything with any age that has been mounted has been treated like jewellery and polished to buggery, which ruins any premium on anything but the most rare of coins.
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dicker reacted to LawrenceChard in "bullion" vs Ex-Mounted
"Ex-Mounted" only describes a historical fact, and not the grade of the coin.
A coin could be ex-mount, yet still be in perfect mint condition (if that is not an oxymoron), or it could be completely ruined, scratched, underweight, and / or contaminated by solder. It could be so bad that it is impososible to distinguish whether it is genuine or fake.
One Blackpool dealer offers "Grade C" sovereigns, which are too bad to sell as bullion (although I often see similar coins and fakes which have been supplied by some of our less transparent competitors).
Anything worse gets scrapped.
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