sovereignsteve

As many discussions around this topic have shown, there are wide differences of opinion on a fair trade. Some who look to trade silver when GSR is low think it should be done at that figure and do not take into account the actual buying prices. Others think it should be done at maximum retail prices which would include VAT. The truth is a fair figure is probably somewhere beween these extremes but would obviously depend on market forces at the time. It's probably a far simpler discussion since Brexit, as it effectively means that we in the UK can't easily access VAT or at least cheaper silver, as we once could. This should mean that holders of gold will want to settle on a trade ratio that more accurately relects the higher retail price of UK silver these days. I don't think we have discussed this issue since Brexit therefore I think it perfectly reasonable for the OP to canvass forum opinion before they offer their silver up for trade. Any fine tuning can be negotiated between interested parties.

Depends what your motives are for grading? Setting aside aspects of the appearance etc of the slabs and labels, I would sum up as follows: If you want to obtain the highest grade for your modern proofs, choose NGC. If you want the correct grade for your sovereigns, or rather more consistent results, choose PCGS. If you are grading very old and rare coins, choose PCGS as they have a better reputation in this area and resale values reflect this. If you want a more convenient and cheaper service, living in the UK, choose NGC.

Just jumping to conclusions then? There was nothing the OP said nor anything in the few relies posted to suggest otherwise.

The OP didn't mention the GSR You're the only one talking about it

acetone is better

Was that in a lot with a rocking horse?

Did anyone here but that 1902 crown? Gorgeous wasn't it, even though it may have had a bit of a dip in the past.

So you can call someone a bastard but can't be called the short form of Richard. Seems to me that is some form of discrimination against a minority. Richards of the world should unite against this obvious wrong. It should be the next crusade for the Woke brigade. Does the forum software not know that D. I. C.K. is a reasonably common surname in Scotland?

mine too

Depends where you bought it and on what description you based your buying decision? I would guess it was advertised as NGC graded PF70. What grounds would you have for returning it? Seems to me your gripe is with NGC not the seller.

My sympathies, we've all been there bud😁

your percentages don't add up to 100 (110) but you probably started with around 1100g of pure silver. You are left with 1000 - 1100g cement. I've no idea what the purity of the cement is nor how efficient is the processing but it seems you can have a rough idea what the cement is worth. Sorry I can't be much help but you problem is interesting. 😊

what was the weight of raw silver material?

what is the number just above the word crown under the stamp? If 1 it's 1oz, or if 2 it's 2 oz not sure about the number 20 to the right. no idea what that refers to and I haven't seen a coin with that before.

Still don't see the connection. Nothing @LawrenceChardsaid has lowered my perception of his business. You obviously didn't like it but there again, your opinion hasn't changed, you were against their business practices before.😉 Personally, I think his statement was entirely logical and explained his position perfectly.

Indeed. Funny how photos can distort details. The obverse background looks a bit scuffed in this photo, and the cross on the crown looks flat too.

Yes fail to see the relevance of your comment though🤔

The E in JEB looks interesting. Is it really as tilted as it looks in the photo?

I'll be happy to give you spot price for it. I may even be pushed to 5% premium😊

Looks a lovely coin. You do see proof-like examples of this year.

Consider myself very lucky to get this beauty. Stunning.

Crowns are both facinating and a nightmare. I am not aware of a definitive publication but I think I have seen mention of a couple of old books that looked interesting but couldn't find copies. Best resource is the internet, Spink and specialist auction house catalogues. I don't think there's that much to learn about them that a good reference catalogue won't tell you. The main issue as others have pointed out is you must learn to accutately grade them and be able to spot cleaned examples. Fakes can be common but tend to be easy to spot as, being silver, the alloy used is usually incorrect.

I remember it well. It would be interesting to hear if he ever saw the sellers again?

No doubt

Just you Paul😉 😁