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I am worried enough about buying one proof coin (especially silver) from the Mint, let alone a set of ten, that takes a brave man or woman indeed imo. This 100% absolutely should not be the case but alas many of us know the Mint too well by now The ridiculous thing is they sometimes get it SO right. For example I've never had a problem with proof Sovs. I believe it's different departments or 'teams' at fault (perhaps QC only) but that may be another topic. The really worrying thing on these is the milk spots. That points to a bad batch of blanks (not necessarily for all 300, but there's a fair chance). I'd be nervous about holding a set of these, much less exposing them to greater risk by getting them graded. Milk spots happen, but on quality coins should be very few and far between. I've only ever had one bullion Kook milk on me out of hundreds, for example, and I was shocked to see it, such is Perth's quality. Worse was a proof Libertad in a set, but that was years after production. These should not be turning up milked, or milking after days.

To add to the other replies, I'm sure the Mint would much prefer to shift thousands of coins at a time to dealers than deal with thousands of small orders. It's also in their interest to have their products reach as wide and far as possible - and then these dealers also often offer their premium products. Imagine the labour costs they save, alone - must be very much more than the quid or two other dealers then undercut them by. It's a mutually beneficial relationship.

Well if it's not all on my 2 kilo gold proof I will not be a happy Insignificant Squire to a Knight of the Most Ancient and Most Noble Order of the Thistle!

I'm disappointed they didn't use his full title, I imagine the Order of Logohu among others will be pretty miffed and possibly boycott this release: His Royal Highness The Prince Philip, Duke of Edinburgh, Earl of Merioneth, Baron Greenwich, Royal Knight of the Most Noble Order of the Garter, Extra Knight of the Most Ancient and Most Noble Order of the Thistle, Member of the Order of Merit, Grand Master and First and Principal Knight Grand Cross of the Most Excellent Order of the British Empire, Knight of the Order of Australia, Additional Member of the Order of New Zealand, Extra Companion of the Queen’s Service Order, Royal Chief of the Order of Logohu, Extraordinary Companion of the Order of Canada, Extraordinary Commander of the Order of Military Merit, Lord of Her Majesty’s Most Honourable Privy Council, Privy Councillor of the Queen’s Privy Council for Canada, Personal Aide-de-Camp to Her Majesty, Lord High Admiral of the United Kingdom.

Sorry I haven't read the thread so just jumping in here on this point. They are perhaps extremely 'unusual' for a major bullion series (and may never be repeated, even), but look at the returns now on the earlier Queen's Beasts in bullion (both 1/4 oz gold and 2oz silver). Canny investors spotted these - I know because I have the early ones graded (well), so certain folks had spotted that opportunity very quickly, even if the Mint and dealers hadn't quite realised yet. I'm not particularly interested in coins atm beyond their intrinsic (proven and recognisable) PM content, and they may not do huge things compared to the earlier releases, but at the slight extra premium the Completers were going for a week or two ago over the Britannia it is absolutely no question for me that that is the most sensible buy if that premium is still small. £10 or 20 quid difference is nothing on an ounce of (same CGT-free) gold imvho.

Any idea how much a 2018 piedfort goes for? I haven' really noticed since I got mine.

£675 for two? And they have a bullion side and a proof (like - ?) side like the 2014s and 15s @GoldDiggerDave mentioned? That sounds like a steal Anyone know how these get graded? Is it a mule?

It's a real conundrum for those with the 1/4s isn't it? A strange release in a sense, but I do love it. I got the bullion and am absolutely delighted with it If I didn't have one this would definitely be the one I didn't get but wanted, I can't think of any others (as a modern coin collector). Luckily I haven't seen the proof in hand or that would probably be the one!

If you just posted the messages you sent them it would all be done and dusted, no? The thread would then be a useful guide to the seller/buyer interaction for members looking in future.

They need to raise interest rates now (well starting a few years ago really, but too late there). Anything else and along with Covid things are going to spiral very, very quickly, and I'll accept that those who said it's a planned destruction of the system as we know it were/are right.

13 coins and a couple of bars is 13 coins and a couple of bars more than most of the people of the world have (and some can only dream of) Definitely avoid vintage/expensive numismatic stuff till you've built up your knowledge. I started with BBP too till I found this place (when low-tax silver from Europe still existed, but BBP are still too expensive for me - I think they have a 'sister' business that sells the exact same stuff cheaper - ?). Good wishes, and oh yes you'll have fun!!!

Good review and I'll take a look at your channel I will say that imo these lovely little bars make 'more sense' (and are much more alluring!) when you have two or three to jangle together in your hand. They are really tactile and a pleasure to play with. So, if it's your first year and you could only get one, make sure you get subsequent years (or perhaps make an offer to the owner of your bar's number from previous years)! There are also discounts for membership levels and some postage discount on multiples, which all helps. Silver's really shot up since last year and I couldn't afford all my last year's bars. I was very pleased that when I put some of last year's up for sale at this year's prices they not only sold out within an hour, I was swamped with people wanting to buy them!

I'd like this in a bigger size to show off the design. I have the 1oz gold bullion and it feels a bit like the party with the dwarves at Bag End at the beginning on The Hobbit.

Atkinson's have an 'aim to dispatch within seven working days' on a tube of these. Chard's are not my favourite dealer but, given the delay anyway, might be worth considering for orders of multiples considering the saving (including the added postage cost). Worth keeping an eye on maybe, they're about a £1 cheaper as of right now even on one, but there is the wait.

They had problems with this one with the caps coming open in transit and scratching the coins - I sent a few back myself. That said I'm sure they would have minted the max and they were very highly in demand, I just happened to find a company who were a bit under the radar (even on here) with stock. I don't think that 323 figure can be right. They can't restrike a SotD but of the few I sent back some may still have been 68/69s - I was being ultra cautious, but I bet those coins were recycled.

Did I say you were just talking about bullion? No, because obviously you weren't. My point remains. The bullion is quite straightforward imo. They won't do a 1/4, the design doesn't allow it. A 2oz, a 5 oz? Maybe, but the 1oz is clearly 'the one to have' for the bullion collectors of the set. I only have the Lion and Griffin so bought this coin on its own merits as nice bullion at what I consider to be a pretty reasonable premium.

Isn't it quite straightforward with the Beast bullion gold though? The Beasts themselves 1/4 oz or 1 oz, the Completer 1 oz?

Received today, lovely as always, many thanks!

Is that because they are the only ones to ship to Denmark? What about Royal Mint Bullion? So there are no import taxes for you? Very good! It sounds like you can afford one ounce Beast Completor (available at Atkinsons of London or Chards at the moment, perhaps the Mint too) and one Sov. As you plan to just buy and hold for a long time, but economic troubles may occur very soon, I would agree with @Touvex and say Sovs. 1/10th coins (e.g. Britannias) carry far too high a premium unless you can find a bargain. Chards secondary market Sovs are sometimes very nice ones some people say (which may have a little collectable value or gain some in the future), or you may just wish to buy new ones (which won't). Let us know what you decide and good luck!

The Danes have surely loved their gold and silver throughout history? I bet people buy from the European dealers - you have great choice there. Niue is part of the Commonwealth and their coins are made by the New Zealand mint. Ignore those. I would go for the most recognisable European gold coins so @Touvex may well be right about Sovs for you, especially as your budget means you will need at least two fractional gold coins anyway. Rather than buy an ounce I would buy six or seven Sovs. Then you can add to them in smaller amounts as you can afford in future. If you do want an ounce and two fractionals (e.g. Sovs) the Completor Queen's Beast is out at the moment with a higher premium, but as long as you get the best price it may be worth more in future. What are your reasons for wanting gold? It seems maybe you just want the metal itself. If so you can't go wrong with basic Sovs, if you pay a little extra (as already said) there is a chance the value could grow slightly as a coin as well as the metal content. Do you have import duties or taxes for gold you order from abroad? If so, can you drive to a European dealer or seller on here to collect in person and bring back in your pocket?

I would also look at the coins of neighbouring countries you can drive to with a coin or two in your pocket.

What gold coins does Denmark mint? And what foreign coins are recognised and sell there? That may be a very good thing. Do you have coin shops and dealers in your country? You could be one of the first very sensible ones there! Not sure at all about this advice given where the OP is. Definitely, Sovereigns are one of the most internationally recognised and traded coins, but they fall behind Krugerrands. With the huge uncertainty in the world at present I would not rely on the popularity of what sells best on here, I would rather look to what can be sold from/within Denmark. @SilverFlame how much research have you done into this?

I thought this had a fairly hefty premium for bullion but the coin appeals to me. It's not just one of a 'set' it's desirable in its own right as a standalone. And then I had a look around at the price of a few coins like the Lion of Mortimer - blimey Is it still being minted? Who knows?!! The Royal Mint reps telling people 'no longer available' means it's not is nonsense. That's just their default website/stock selling position (though happy to be corrected here on this one - until then they could be right by accident imo, or they may be wrong). I'm intrigued to see folks pouring into Atkinsons though when Chards have them with a shortish wait at £11 or so cheaper. Is it just the asap delivery?

Any caps are fine to send, it's just you have to pay to get them returned. Some of course are harder to replace than others if you don't pay and think you or a buyer might like one in the future.

Can you get to London? If so NGC will show you how to fill the forms in. Once you've seen this once or twice you'll know how to do it yourself. It seems complicated at first but it's not Yes you can send coins in caps but you have to specify that and pay the $4 (don't know what it is in pounds now - I'm sure it's more!) for them to be returned. Otherwise transfer them carefully to non-PVC coin flips (protect them well if sending by post ofc).