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I have only one Gold 1/10th Kook and it is a 2020, so I was interested in this thread. Does anyone know what they are worth as at Dec 22? It seems there are not that many on the market. Many thanks.

Thank you. And do you now how they are dispersed for sale?

Calling on those that may have an insight into the Mexican market. If I was to visit Mexico this year, how would I go about best sourcing a 2022 gold 1oz Libertad? Do I have to order from the mint for delivery to a domestic address or visit the mint? I understand there are few coin/PM stores out there and those may be dodgy. Anyone with any experience? Many thanks, N

"Burn marks"?

Today I received my first Monarchs coin back from NGC and I am so happy with it. It will be a long and slow journey to collect the whole set, but if they all look as good as this one when graded, in a tactile chunky slab, I will be overjoyed.

There will be many on this Forum with a far greater historical knowledge than I, but do the historical charts reflect the respective increases happening in unison, or staggered? If the latter, and we are talking about actively turning small amounts into greater wealth rather than passive wealth generation, then there is opportunity to play the differential. You need at least two commodities to trade in order to execute such a strategy, which of course could be anything: copper, tin, platinum, equities, cars... The surge in buying Ag in the last 48hrs may be said to reflect its popularity for this activity. Perhaps the fingers crossed approach that gold:silver ratio realigning with a closer margin is a gamble, but I'd say it is a realistic possibility, a second opportunity, and with better odds than Noble Yeats!

I believe this is a specific factor many consider when going through the weighting decision of gold versus silver stacking and a big enough factor to fly in the face of your data driven pro-silver argument. The ROI on silver may be three times that of gold and, at that point, you sell in order to increase your gold ownership. I believe very few disagree with the "Gold if for Kings", but silver is to tool that may afford you the opportunity to own more gold than a limited budget may otherwise allow.

It is at this point, "yes, in 20 years or so I'll be able to look back and say, if I'd JUST done gold I could have amassed 'x' oz more - but a pursuit like this has to be enjoyable too (for me at least) and if it was purely pragmatic and practical, I'd probably lose momentum." you may start second questioning the stacking of Sovs or Brits and think, if I am keeping the gold for 20years, would a more rare or well graded coin give a better roi?

Do I need to check everything I have bought off you?😁

The whole discussion regarding collecting, stacking and liquidity is interesting and there will be differing views. I, too, am relatively new to the the world of physical PM, but have some thoughts: 1. Silver coins are nice, but I question the real sense if truly stacking. Are we really thinking that at some point we would use them in exchange for goods and services? Is there a high risk that once you start buying coins, the greed monster kicks in and, where you may have deliberately said "split between Brits and Maples" only, it soon turns into Kooks, Krugers (ASEs if someone is selling cheaper than normal) etc? Also, they tarnish! 2. One common maxim is that you watch the gold versus silver ratio. Whilst the number is deemed high, as now at a little under 80:1, you buy silver. When that number drops, perhaps to 50, you sell the silver and buy gold. If you follow this, then why not just buy manageable bars (10oz, 250g to 1kg)? 3. Everyone considers different factors when discussing the future of silver. My hope is that any manipulation of the price is relaxed/stopped, but I am also conscious that something seismic may catch us all off guard as Govs could introduce measures to control the price in line with a growing industrial consumption (Indeed, something sooner may happen if the bank exposure is truly understood). If the former, and the aforementioned ratio rebalances, the stackers are quids in with multiple 100% ROI. If the latter, we could all be sitting with dead ducks and wishing we just bought gold. 4. Sovs v Brits. Yes, Sovs theoretically are easier to sell on at a time of need. If you are in a time of need, is £360 or £720 going to be sufficient? 5. If saving for the future, ergo the long investment, then the common cry is the cost now and the premium is less important (than if you are flipping). If you are saving for the future, perhaps you are investing a set amount per month, then surely it's best still to buy the highest amount at the lowest premium? The aesthetics and heart needs to take a second place to a more business approach. Of course you can go down the more specific long term investment, buying a rare coin or sets of highly graded or similar, but that is another game and not stacking. 6. Consider the current CGT and VAT rules. 7. A couple of final thoughts: a) Collecting coins, gold or silver, can be addictive. Don't get attached b) There are many sovereigns; there are many different Au and Ag coins. Limit your horizon c) Consider storage space and insurance d) Talk to people that have been in this market for sometime. I have found people on TSF to be extraordinarily kind when sharing advice and thoughts as well as services 7. Last point is that I wager that what you are planning now, your strategy, will have changed within 12 months. All the best with whatever you do.

Have used Paypal to enter this morning. I assume it has come through? If not, please let me know.

Only those years?

Out of interest, does the price vary a great deal between years of the Buffalo? What would be a fair price today on TSF, as opposed to Bullion by Post or Chards?

What are you hoping to spend for a Buffalo? If your budget is right then I am sure enough Buffalo's will be forthcoming.

Thank you. That is just the type of direction I sought. I will try for the 2005 & 2007 Pandas and the 2012 Dragon. Last question: are we talking about bullion or proof or would the proof of these coins be almost impossible to find due to small numbers?