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Maybe its because the mintage figures.  IMO they are a hold coin.  Give them 5- 10 years then they will be ok.  

Maybe its because the mintage figures.  IMO they are a hold coin.  Give them 5- 10 years then they will be ok.  

Maybe its because the mintage figures.  IMO they are a hold coin.  Give them 5- 10 years then they will be ok.  

i just moan direct to CEO Anne - she's on my BT "friends and family"

Same looking to add to my Gold collection. 

Its the most historic coin that’s still in production I hope the rm don’t turn the sov into a gimmick just for profit 
I can just about stomach some of the reasons for the SOTD’s 
back to st George 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 Asap please you profit mongering C####’#
 
 

Just a thought, IMO Anyone who wants to hold for a few years then sell the lower the numbers sold the better. 

Does anyone think that the 1/2 sovereign may be near the top end of the price range

The Sovereign is the Flagship at the RM.   IMO The RM have made an excellent job of the Effigy of the Kings head.  

This is a good idea

Things have changed in England a lot over recent decades. i remember going into HFC bank with my wife to withdraw some money or maybe it was deposit cash. This would have been in the late 1980's or very early 1990's. We had to provide ID. Neither of us had ever been asked for this before. It was some BS about money laundering - the terrorism stunt hadn't come in yet. A few years later we saw the terrorism canard. i have asked more than once, do i look like a terrorist? (It would seem some of the content i post online has classified me as a terrorist in some parts of the world - according to the real terrorists and assorted criminals).

It seems that as more and more shysters appear in our land, more and more fraud is taking place, so businesses are obliged to disbelieve their customers. 
i mean take RM, i could claim i sent proof coins when they were bullion, i could claim anything and plenty of people will have done so. They see it as an opportunity to inflate their claims - the world is full of chancers. 
If you send valuables by RM, as i mentioned on an ebay thread, i think you have to video it all. To show what went into the package, to show the package, to show the address label. Video the package being handed over at the post office - showing it is the same package. Describe on video what you are putting into the package and the value. 
i went to this website to create a legal Bill of Sale. https://www.lawdepot.co.uk/contracts/bill-of-sale/?webuser_data_id=150432302
It is a legal document in England and Wales. You can put all the details into the document as you follow the steps. How many members would want to do this is debatable. You could show this Bill of Sale document as you packed the sale item - i am sending the 20 x 1 oz silver Britiannias to Jack Jones - here is his name and address on the package label - this is the price. This is the bank transfer online / paypal payment - you can fake a pdf bank statement but not a real time video of the computer screen. Maybe you even show your passport (photo ID) and then turn the camera on yourself to prove it is you, John Smith.
This is all way OTT and 99% of the time with sales to TSF members it won't be needed - it might be needed more often with ebay scammers who claim you never sent the item advertised. What more could we do for those unfortunate incidences?

Something that doesn't seem to have been yelled about in this thread yet, apologies if I've got the wrong end of this particular stick, is the fact that the Royal Mail will only pay out compensation for the "purchase price" not the "sale price". Excuse me? That is not acceptable in the slightest. If you keep inventory for an amount of time and the cash value of that stock goes up you should expect any insurance claim to cover the value of the sales transaction. If I bought a Ford Capri in 1994 it may have cost me £500, that same car in comparable condition would be £thousands today. If the car is stolen/written off/damaged in transit I would be receiving the market value of the vehicle at the date of claim. The same goes for sales, a Ming dynasty vase that was lost/stolen in transit would garner the insurance value relevant to the sale amount/contemporary value. Why are Royal Mail trying to alter reality for personal sales of precious metals? I can't see this argument standing up in court, but then even approaching the idea of legal action is costly for the applicant so we'll probably never find out 🤷🏼‍♂️

As the Gold price has gone up people have just gone for the Sovereign.  In any case the Piedfort is nice when you hold them but who in the right mind would hold a proof coin.
I just want the Sovereign and the 1/2 Sovereign

The £5BU only gets struck twice not 10 times as the proof does.  There is a short film on the RM site about it. 
I like the BU coins but imo they are not worth the same as the proof and i do not think the £5BU is a good investment.  If you are buying because you like it then good but you may lose money on the BU coin. 

Only problem with the 5 BU sovereign is I think you will get it cheaper later in the year. A 2022 sold on the coinery last month for £1.95k plus 16% fees. Lovely coins though

Who has booked Tuesday off work ? working from home ? or going in late ? then 
asking for a friend 

We have all done that in our said fields

Fields?
It's just as well we aren't in the fresh produce business!
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We have all done that in our said fields

We don't have a "Sales Team". The nearest we have is a "Customer Service Team".
We have never done hard selling, and simply worked on trying to give good advice, and helping potential customers find what they want.
The margin on the last few was indeed quite good, but hardly a profitable way to run a business, taking 13 years to sell.
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Tavex, I have only made small purchases from them but now they want verification because it gone over £1000 has anyone else had this?

In my experience 'mint to order' has worked favourably for previous coin runs - mainly because the RM have historically bad advertising and notification budgets/processes*. Most people wouldn't be aware that an item was even for sale before production ceased. Examples being the 2016 silver sixpence or the 2009 'Blue Peter' 50 pence coins. 
This time around the media coverage coupled with a significant historical event has made these items more widely known.  The 3 month production run on the silver proofs makes sense for a company who want to maximise profits whilst maintaining a semblance of 'exclusivity'.
There will be a lot of casual purchases of these coins (simply because they are a hot item) which will end up on the secondary market. I will be getting a silver proof 50p (because i like the look of it) probably around Feb/Mar 2023 and i'm hoping to pay around £20 for it 😁
* I'm still awaiting RM notification of the first King Charles coins !
 

Am i the only one who thinks that the sad loss of the Queen means that more Sovereigns will be sold!   Hence the less sort after. 

Am i the only one who thinks that the sad loss of the Queen means that more Sovereigns will be sold!   Hence the less sort after. 

I would not wait for them, I can see extreme demand for these as they are affordable.