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DukeSilver

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    DukeSilver reacted to Touvex in Silver - 10oz Queens Beasts, griffin and dragon, pristine!   
    My last two QB coins - I kept these two as they are absolutely pristine, check photos. Wanted to grade them but never got around to sending large coins in… need cash so thought I’d finally let them go to a new home.
    griffin - SOLD
    dragon - SOLD
    plus post.
    thanks for looking!











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    DukeSilver got a reaction from stefffana in My first attempt at semi-natural/semi-artificial patina (QBs)   
    I could certainly be tempted. But I would be sad to see them go 😢
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    DukeSilver reacted to MBTPSilver in My first attempt at semi-natural/semi-artificial patina (QBs)   
    These look amazing, great job! Kind of tempted to try this on one of the big 10oz coins. It is funny how often people complain about tarnish when it can look this good.
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    DukeSilver got a reaction from MetalMandible in My first attempt at semi-natural/semi-artificial patina (QBs)   
    Hello all!
    For a while I have been trying to create a patina on a couple of silver QBs - partly because they were already tarnished, but mostly because I have always wanted to try it!
    I wanted to avoid cutting corners by using Liver of Sulphur, so thought I would try a semi-natural/semi-artificial method. I did this by wrapping them in highly sulphurous paper and packing material for about 18 months, and regularly changing it every 1-2 months.
    Full disclosure: I definitely cheated by 'sulphurizing' the packing material for several days prior to repacking the coins!
    I am by no means an expert, but I am rather pleased with the results and thought it would be fun to show them off.
     
    These pictures are taken under low light to show the greatest detail.
    First the Dragon:


     
    And here is the Griffin:


     
    Under a more natural light, they have a rather impressive bronze/amber look to them:

     

     
    In natural sunlight they are quite glorious to look at - almost like they are carved out of wood!
    Best wishes to all
    Duke
     
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    DukeSilver got a reaction from Luketeach in My first attempt at semi-natural/semi-artificial patina (QBs)   
    Hello all!
    For a while I have been trying to create a patina on a couple of silver QBs - partly because they were already tarnished, but mostly because I have always wanted to try it!
    I wanted to avoid cutting corners by using Liver of Sulphur, so thought I would try a semi-natural/semi-artificial method. I did this by wrapping them in highly sulphurous paper and packing material for about 18 months, and regularly changing it every 1-2 months.
    Full disclosure: I definitely cheated by 'sulphurizing' the packing material for several days prior to repacking the coins!
    I am by no means an expert, but I am rather pleased with the results and thought it would be fun to show them off.
     
    These pictures are taken under low light to show the greatest detail.
    First the Dragon:


     
    And here is the Griffin:


     
    Under a more natural light, they have a rather impressive bronze/amber look to them:

     

     
    In natural sunlight they are quite glorious to look at - almost like they are carved out of wood!
    Best wishes to all
    Duke
     
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    DukeSilver got a reaction from Lyrinn in My first attempt at semi-natural/semi-artificial patina (QBs)   
    Hello all!
    For a while I have been trying to create a patina on a couple of silver QBs - partly because they were already tarnished, but mostly because I have always wanted to try it!
    I wanted to avoid cutting corners by using Liver of Sulphur, so thought I would try a semi-natural/semi-artificial method. I did this by wrapping them in highly sulphurous paper and packing material for about 18 months, and regularly changing it every 1-2 months.
    Full disclosure: I definitely cheated by 'sulphurizing' the packing material for several days prior to repacking the coins!
    I am by no means an expert, but I am rather pleased with the results and thought it would be fun to show them off.
     
    These pictures are taken under low light to show the greatest detail.
    First the Dragon:


     
    And here is the Griffin:


     
    Under a more natural light, they have a rather impressive bronze/amber look to them:

     

     
    In natural sunlight they are quite glorious to look at - almost like they are carved out of wood!
    Best wishes to all
    Duke
     
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    DukeSilver got a reaction from SilverPlatinum in My first attempt at semi-natural/semi-artificial patina (QBs)   
    Hello all!
    For a while I have been trying to create a patina on a couple of silver QBs - partly because they were already tarnished, but mostly because I have always wanted to try it!
    I wanted to avoid cutting corners by using Liver of Sulphur, so thought I would try a semi-natural/semi-artificial method. I did this by wrapping them in highly sulphurous paper and packing material for about 18 months, and regularly changing it every 1-2 months.
    Full disclosure: I definitely cheated by 'sulphurizing' the packing material for several days prior to repacking the coins!
    I am by no means an expert, but I am rather pleased with the results and thought it would be fun to show them off.
     
    These pictures are taken under low light to show the greatest detail.
    First the Dragon:


     
    And here is the Griffin:


     
    Under a more natural light, they have a rather impressive bronze/amber look to them:

     

     
    In natural sunlight they are quite glorious to look at - almost like they are carved out of wood!
    Best wishes to all
    Duke
     
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    DukeSilver got a reaction from Gordy in My first attempt at semi-natural/semi-artificial patina (QBs)   
    I tried using egg whites in a air-tight container once before. Spectacular results (like a kaleidoscope), but it had a definite artificial feel to it. I was keen to see how long it would take to get a more natural-looking result - with a bit of coaxing, of course.
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    DukeSilver got a reaction from MickB in My first attempt at semi-natural/semi-artificial patina (QBs)   
    Hello all!
    For a while I have been trying to create a patina on a couple of silver QBs - partly because they were already tarnished, but mostly because I have always wanted to try it!
    I wanted to avoid cutting corners by using Liver of Sulphur, so thought I would try a semi-natural/semi-artificial method. I did this by wrapping them in highly sulphurous paper and packing material for about 18 months, and regularly changing it every 1-2 months.
    Full disclosure: I definitely cheated by 'sulphurizing' the packing material for several days prior to repacking the coins!
    I am by no means an expert, but I am rather pleased with the results and thought it would be fun to show them off.
     
    These pictures are taken under low light to show the greatest detail.
    First the Dragon:


     
    And here is the Griffin:


     
    Under a more natural light, they have a rather impressive bronze/amber look to them:

     

     
    In natural sunlight they are quite glorious to look at - almost like they are carved out of wood!
    Best wishes to all
    Duke
     
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    DukeSilver got a reaction from harrygill111 in My first attempt at semi-natural/semi-artificial patina (QBs)   
    Hello all!
    For a while I have been trying to create a patina on a couple of silver QBs - partly because they were already tarnished, but mostly because I have always wanted to try it!
    I wanted to avoid cutting corners by using Liver of Sulphur, so thought I would try a semi-natural/semi-artificial method. I did this by wrapping them in highly sulphurous paper and packing material for about 18 months, and regularly changing it every 1-2 months.
    Full disclosure: I definitely cheated by 'sulphurizing' the packing material for several days prior to repacking the coins!
    I am by no means an expert, but I am rather pleased with the results and thought it would be fun to show them off.
     
    These pictures are taken under low light to show the greatest detail.
    First the Dragon:


     
    And here is the Griffin:


     
    Under a more natural light, they have a rather impressive bronze/amber look to them:

     

     
    In natural sunlight they are quite glorious to look at - almost like they are carved out of wood!
    Best wishes to all
    Duke
     
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    DukeSilver got a reaction from theman73 in My first attempt at semi-natural/semi-artificial patina (QBs)   
    Hello all!
    For a while I have been trying to create a patina on a couple of silver QBs - partly because they were already tarnished, but mostly because I have always wanted to try it!
    I wanted to avoid cutting corners by using Liver of Sulphur, so thought I would try a semi-natural/semi-artificial method. I did this by wrapping them in highly sulphurous paper and packing material for about 18 months, and regularly changing it every 1-2 months.
    Full disclosure: I definitely cheated by 'sulphurizing' the packing material for several days prior to repacking the coins!
    I am by no means an expert, but I am rather pleased with the results and thought it would be fun to show them off.
     
    These pictures are taken under low light to show the greatest detail.
    First the Dragon:


     
    And here is the Griffin:


     
    Under a more natural light, they have a rather impressive bronze/amber look to them:

     

     
    In natural sunlight they are quite glorious to look at - almost like they are carved out of wood!
    Best wishes to all
    Duke
     
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    DukeSilver got a reaction from ArgentSmith in My first attempt at semi-natural/semi-artificial patina (QBs)   
    Hello all!
    For a while I have been trying to create a patina on a couple of silver QBs - partly because they were already tarnished, but mostly because I have always wanted to try it!
    I wanted to avoid cutting corners by using Liver of Sulphur, so thought I would try a semi-natural/semi-artificial method. I did this by wrapping them in highly sulphurous paper and packing material for about 18 months, and regularly changing it every 1-2 months.
    Full disclosure: I definitely cheated by 'sulphurizing' the packing material for several days prior to repacking the coins!
    I am by no means an expert, but I am rather pleased with the results and thought it would be fun to show them off.
     
    These pictures are taken under low light to show the greatest detail.
    First the Dragon:


     
    And here is the Griffin:


     
    Under a more natural light, they have a rather impressive bronze/amber look to them:

     

     
    In natural sunlight they are quite glorious to look at - almost like they are carved out of wood!
    Best wishes to all
    Duke
     
  13. Like
    DukeSilver reacted to AuricGoldfinger in Storing sovereigns - are capsules worth it?   
    This is my preferred method as these lighthouse capsules are what fit in Aluns boxes which is what i used to motivate myself. 10 sovereigns loose are underwhelming, i found the capsule and boxes bulked it up a bit. For me it’s worth it. Posted these pics on another thread about sovereign storage it may be worth you doing a search and finding it. The capsules are now in air tite tubes and safe deposit storage but having them in capsules in the boxes looked the best.




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    DukeSilver reacted to Skyfiller in Storing sovereigns - are capsules worth it?   
    22mm internal diameter capsules. The case comes with 100 capsules.
    https://smile.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B08TQBLR8J?psc=1&ref=ppx_pop_mob_b_asin_title
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    DukeSilver reacted to DBCooper in Storing sovereigns - are capsules worth it?   
    Each to their own way of storing their own coins but, whist some of my nicer, rarer coins are stored safely in flips or capsules
    Personally I have only ever brought best value Sov's at bullion prices and as such I regard them as just that, Plain old bullion.
    I store all mine in tubes, not even purpose made tubes just,  old industrial plastic tubes that originally held drill bits. I find it fairly easy to find  tubes that are the perfect fit for a full Sov,s  once at tube is filled and stashed away they don't move around and even if they did it wouldn't bother me in the slightest.
    regards 
    DB
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    DukeSilver got a reaction from stefffana in Storing sovereigns - are capsules worth it?   
    Hello all!
    A rather sweeping question I know, but please bear with me...
    As some of the good folks on TSF may have noticed, I am a huge fan of sovereigns and I am always on the look out for a good trade. Since joining, I have been fortunate enough to accumulate a good number of 'minty' sovereigns (as Mr @LawrenceChard would call them), all of which are currently stored in plastic capsules. Unfortunately, I am beginning to find the volume taken up by the capsules themselves a little cumbersome compared to the space taken up by the bare coins.
    So, my question is: is it really worth storing sovereigns in individual plastic capsules, purely for the sake of keeping them 'minty', compared to storing them in (for example) a Royal Mint sovereign tube and risking a little bit of scuffing? Would there be that much of a difference in potential resale price?
    Given the choice, I would much prefer using a sovereign tube, even over individual plastic sleeves, simply for the sake of convenient storage.
    Please note: I am referring to ordinary bullion coins here, not BU or proof coins. Plus, I am in no way a collector, just a plain old stacker.
    As always, thank you for your time, and I wish you all a good day and good stacking!
    Duke
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    DukeSilver reacted to Skyfiller in Storing sovereigns - are capsules worth it?   
    The way I look at it is 10 quid for 100 sovereigns (30k) not only looks after them, makes it easy to store and I number each capsule so I know what I paid for each one. Good value in my mind. 

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    DukeSilver reacted to Richym99 in Storing sovereigns - are capsules worth it?   
    I have just paid £422 for a 1930P, albeit MS grade. The grade makes all the difference to the value. 
    Of the "small head" George V sovs issued between 1929 and 1931 inc (and 32 in South Africa), the Perth mint coins are either regarded as scarce or rare, whilst the Melbourne coins are even rarer. All the SA dates are common. Sydhey and London did not issue sovereigns in those years.  
    Even if you don't want to swing to the expense of a copy of Marsh, I would suggest at least going onto playbooks and buying a downloadable copy of Spink's Coins of  England (Which covers everything from Roman times to 1971 for all denominations)  together with the Decimal version, covering 1971 to the modern day. You will soon get your money back.  
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    DukeSilver reacted to LawrenceChard in Storing sovereigns - are capsules worth it?   
    Sounds like a good deal.
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    DukeSilver reacted to LawrenceChard in Storing sovereigns - are capsules worth it?   
    Condition does make a difference.
    Although I /we tend to buy most bullion sovereigns as a commodity, at the same price per coin, we do reject damaged, soldered, over-polished coins, which we only buy at a discount, depending on how bad they are.
    Apart from sub-standard coins, it must be about two years since we last paid less than spot for sovereigns.
    I don't understand why people sell at 97%, or how other dealers manage to buy at that sort of price, although it is much better than most jewellers would pay, often 60% to 70%, probably after they had filed and acid tested them!
    If there were only a small proportion of slightly sub-standard bullion sovereigns, we might give them the benefit of the doubt if the rest of the coins were in good condition.
    So, overall, yes it is generally worth trying to take sensible steps to maintain coins in the best condition possible.
     
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    DukeSilver reacted to richatthecroft in Storing sovereigns - are capsules worth it?   
    Not sure- but they are sold and shipped in tubes/ monster boxes of coins.
    I’m guessing dealers initially buy them from the respective Mint’s this way, as well as fortunate private individuals.  
    I’ve bought new 1oz Oriental Britannias from Atkinsons previously and they came supplied in flips- From memory, the capsules to fit them were 50p each- the margins must be extremely tight 🙄 
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    DukeSilver reacted to LawrenceChard in Storing sovereigns - are capsules worth it?   
    Thanks for the mention. I'm glad you like the word "minty".
    Good question, and lots of good answers already.
    If in doubt, put them in capsules, providing you have enough storage space. If you haven't got enough storage space, try to acquire some more.
    Tubes are OK if you handle the coins carefully, and certainly OK if they are older circulated ones, again unless there are some particularly good condition ones.
    I have seen many sovereigns and other coins spolied by careless handling or storage.
    When we buy sovereigns, we tend to look more favourably at coins in capsules, or other suitable protection.
    At the worst, even if you did not get more for better coins, they would almost certainly be easier to sell, whether to dealers, or fellow stackers, investors, or collectors.
    It can't do any harm to store in capsules, and could help, so once again, yes.
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    DukeSilver reacted to pricha in Storing sovereigns - are capsules worth it?   
    I always store them in capsules . After a while it's interesting to see how scratched the capsules become. That surely tells you something  . 
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    DukeSilver reacted to richatthecroft in Storing sovereigns - are capsules worth it?   
    Like you say, a fortunate position- I have heard many complaints about stacking and storing Silver- but none about storing Sovereigns.
    I guess if you are storing them in a chargeable by volume safety deposit box, and you wish to keep costs down, then Tubes will be fine- if they are being stacked and stored in tubes, then once they are in them and in the storage/ hiding place then they are not going to move about and therefore, potential damage will be negligible 👍 
     
    I guess not so if you occasionally take the tubes out and shake them about gleefully and with joy, a couple of tubes in each hand like a pair of maracas- to your favourite musical beat- then tubes would be a problem 😉 
    Given that you have cited Lawrence, then you will know already that dinged and battered ‘grade C’ or ‘Best Value’ Sovereigns are worth far less than the ‘minty’ variety.
    I would say you could get a fair few tubes of Sovereigns- x25 in a tube in a shoe box size space.
    But,  if you didn’t want them clanging together in tubes then the best of both worlds perhaps, could be to insert each Sovereign into a 2”x2” Saflip, which I believe offer ‘museum grade’ protection and then put them in the Red rigid cardboard Saflip rectangular boxes- which will hold around 100 Sovereigns- and then pop the Saflip boxes in a man-sized shoebox- a Dr Martens Shoebox will hold 10x Saflip boxes- 1,000 Sovereigns per shoebox. 

    By using tubes or Saflips you could take the opportunity whilst decanting them from the capsules to then reappraise your stack,  and sell any Sovereigns that might have larger premium over Spot- and replace with lesser Sovs and alongside, selling any Royal Mint Capsules you have for say a fiver a pop- you might gather enough cash for another Sovereign or two.  Win- Win- Win 😃 
     
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    DukeSilver reacted to Pete in Storing sovereigns - are capsules worth it?   
    I use a coin album which has small pockets on each sheet for many of my sovereigns.
    The others are in coin tubes and none in caps.
    I used to believe that shiny new unmarked coins would fetch a higher price than scuffed dirty ones but that isn't the case.
    My experience of selling FDC ( perfect and would likely grade to 70 ) proof sovereigns, near spot, and below spot to the likes of HGM in London, educated me into not worrying about storage or condition any more for bullion.
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