Simmoleon

I think it may be time for RM to stop with the edge lettering - they clearly are having issues with it, one series you can understand but to do it again is just silly. Also, I’m going to say it, I once thought QC were the issue but again, some of the issues presented are as clear as day so at this point including multi-series feedback on QC issues - either management at RM is aware and letting these coins be sent or QC is just a sticker they put on. Even if RM are setting the QC bar low, they must know these coins will be returned. Again, QC on the odd coin or a particular series is feasible and understandable but this is becoming too common place at this point.
The coins by the way do look stunning, I regretted not by the 5oz and I think I still have that regret after seeing them in hand. 

I think it may be time for RM to stop with the edge lettering - they clearly are having issues with it, one series you can understand but to do it again is just silly. Also, I’m going to say it, I once thought QC were the issue but again, some of the issues presented are as clear as day so at this point including multi-series feedback on QC issues - either management at RM is aware and letting these coins be sent or QC is just a sticker they put on. Even if RM are setting the QC bar low, they must know these coins will be returned. Again, QC on the odd coin or a particular series is feasible and understandable but this is becoming too common place at this point.
The coins by the way do look stunning, I regretted not by the 5oz and I think I still have that regret after seeing them in hand. 

I think it may be time for RM to stop with the edge lettering - they clearly are having issues with it, one series you can understand but to do it again is just silly. Also, I’m going to say it, I once thought QC were the issue but again, some of the issues presented are as clear as day so at this point including multi-series feedback on QC issues - either management at RM is aware and letting these coins be sent or QC is just a sticker they put on. Even if RM are setting the QC bar low, they must know these coins will be returned. Again, QC on the odd coin or a particular series is feasible and understandable but this is becoming too common place at this point.
The coins by the way do look stunning, I regretted not by the 5oz and I think I still have that regret after seeing them in hand. 

I think it may be time for RM to stop with the edge lettering - they clearly are having issues with it, one series you can understand but to do it again is just silly. Also, I’m going to say it, I once thought QC were the issue but again, some of the issues presented are as clear as day so at this point including multi-series feedback on QC issues - either management at RM is aware and letting these coins be sent or QC is just a sticker they put on. Even if RM are setting the QC bar low, they must know these coins will be returned. Again, QC on the odd coin or a particular series is feasible and understandable but this is becoming too common place at this point.
The coins by the way do look stunning, I regretted not by the 5oz and I think I still have that regret after seeing them in hand. 

WWP appears on a few more coins of that era, this is not a bad read 
https://www.wickedwilliam.com/tag/sir-joseph-banks/
"Wellesley-Pole was delighted to discover ‘I am empowered to place such private mark as I choose [on all coin], and I have chosen my initials…WWP’. The press accused him of ‘smuggling his initials’ onto the new sovereign and they were quick to publish his reply: ‘I shall be impeached for putting my initials on the coin of the realm, as Cardinal Wolsey was for placing a cardinal’s hat on the coin of Henry VIII!’  Such was the level of vitriol probably originating from jealous and resentful members of the Royal Academy that Wellesley-Pole was compelled to make a statement in the House of Commons setting the record straight. Pistrucci fared similarly when exercising his right to leave a mark on designs used in the new coins"
I've also found this etching which is very interesting...........As most of us would say this is  Benedetto Pistrucci's work........ All the Roman aka Italian artist were "ripping off"  other artist designs....this is by Pietro Bonato, who  copied it of Stefano Tofanelli who happen to be (Pistrucci teacher)  who intern ripped of Raphael work from the 1500's.      Pistrucci no doubt copied the design elements of the  dragon from his teacher  Tofanelli.
What is also interesting and I've never been able to find it in Pistrucci's work is his hidden cypher...... Pistrucci put this is in his designs, cameos, engravings as Tofanelli was passing young Pistrucci's work off as his own.......
 
 
 
 

That’s an awful drop in detail from the original. To be honest the new great engravers lack some the finer detail in my opinion, aspects like the horses tail and plumes just lack the detail of the original. Just to note, I still really like the new GEs and they are miles better than the sovereign above. Just commenting the originals have way better strikes if you can find a nice one and the detail in them is ridiculously fine 

What would B.P say about the Mints works today, what have they done to his masterpeice over time?
George on the left is how B.P intended him to look, on the right is how he looks on the 2024 sovereign, I reckon if he was still alive he woud probably sue.

I’d be surprised if it didn’t surpass that estimate quite easily 

I’ll keep my eye open for this but I suspect it’ll cost a fair bit to whoever is lucky enough to be its next owner 

I’d be surprised if it didn’t surpass that estimate quite easily 

Just taken a look at my Consigners Agreement and estimate is £300- £400, so might well be a bargain on the day. 

I’ll keep my eye open for this but I suspect it’ll cost a fair bit to whoever is lucky enough to be its next owner 

This is my 1818 before it was graded - they are stunning coins. 

This is my 1818 before it was graded - they are stunning coins. 

This is my 1818 before it was graded - they are stunning coins. 

The Great Engravers aren’t meant to be bullion so you can expect to pay a premium for the work that went in to the design and minting process. As people have mentioned, their presentation boxes and capsules add to the costs. Then you pay a premium because it’s one of the RM’s flagship range and I expect RM wants a bigger slice of the pie after previous GEs went for stupid prices.
The mint are confident they’ll sell the GEs at this price, which leaves the decision down to us to understand if it’s a coin you want to invest in. It’s like Adidas make trainers but they sell some version for more because it’s their premium range and the demand is there. Probably less dust in a shoebox than a RM capsule but that’s a different conversation. 

This is my 1818 before it was graded - they are stunning coins. 

The Great Engravers aren’t meant to be bullion so you can expect to pay a premium for the work that went in to the design and minting process. As people have mentioned, their presentation boxes and capsules add to the costs. Then you pay a premium because it’s one of the RM’s flagship range and I expect RM wants a bigger slice of the pie after previous GEs went for stupid prices.
The mint are confident they’ll sell the GEs at this price, which leaves the decision down to us to understand if it’s a coin you want to invest in. It’s like Adidas make trainers but they sell some version for more because it’s their premium range and the demand is there. Probably less dust in a shoebox than a RM capsule but that’s a different conversation. 

The Great Engravers aren’t meant to be bullion so you can expect to pay a premium for the work that went in to the design and minting process. As people have mentioned, their presentation boxes and capsules add to the costs. Then you pay a premium because it’s one of the RM’s flagship range and I expect RM wants a bigger slice of the pie after previous GEs went for stupid prices.
The mint are confident they’ll sell the GEs at this price, which leaves the decision down to us to understand if it’s a coin you want to invest in. It’s like Adidas make trainers but they sell some version for more because it’s their premium range and the demand is there. Probably less dust in a shoebox than a RM capsule but that’s a different conversation. 

The Great Engravers aren’t meant to be bullion so you can expect to pay a premium for the work that went in to the design and minting process. As people have mentioned, their presentation boxes and capsules add to the costs. Then you pay a premium because it’s one of the RM’s flagship range and I expect RM wants a bigger slice of the pie after previous GEs went for stupid prices.
The mint are confident they’ll sell the GEs at this price, which leaves the decision down to us to understand if it’s a coin you want to invest in. It’s like Adidas make trainers but they sell some version for more because it’s their premium range and the demand is there. Probably less dust in a shoebox than a RM capsule but that’s a different conversation. 

This is my 1818 before it was graded - they are stunning coins. 

The Great Engravers aren’t meant to be bullion so you can expect to pay a premium for the work that went in to the design and minting process. As people have mentioned, their presentation boxes and capsules add to the costs. Then you pay a premium because it’s one of the RM’s flagship range and I expect RM wants a bigger slice of the pie after previous GEs went for stupid prices.
The mint are confident they’ll sell the GEs at this price, which leaves the decision down to us to understand if it’s a coin you want to invest in. It’s like Adidas make trainers but they sell some version for more because it’s their premium range and the demand is there. Probably less dust in a shoebox than a RM capsule but that’s a different conversation. 

This is my 1818 before it was graded - they are stunning coins. 

😮great coin! Great toning 😮🤔

This is my 1818 before it was graded - they are stunning coins.