Alex944

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I have the following Perth Mint lunar 3 coins for sale:
1 ounce mouse (2020) with privy harvest (mintage only 5237)   50 euro
1 ounce tiger (2022)  35 euro
2 ounce tiger (2022) colored  95 euro

The capsules have little scratches, the coins are in perfect condition.
Shipping is from the Netherlands. The shipping costs vary, for most West European countries it will be 17 euro for an insured package.
Shipping without insurance is cheaper but the risk is for the buyer.
If you have any questions, don't hesitate to contact me.

Good morning forum.

I was doing some reading yesterday and I found a nice table of mint marks for the Netherlands, when they were used and who was the mint master at the time. I will leave links to the original documentation on the bottom of the post; it's not mine in any way, I just translated it to English so it can be shared and it may prove useful to some folks. Unfortunately not all images were present on the page.

Few additional notes:

*The Acorn and Palmtree privies do not signify a mint masters' mark but rather for which part of the kingdom (Netherlands or its overseas territories) it was destined.

'' With Star '' privies indicate the change of mint master, where ''with star'' privies are usually the transitioning year between former and new mintmaster

You will often see a Caduceus mark on Dutch coins. This is the mark of the mint in Utrecht and is a reference to the roman god Mercury, as a reference to commerce and merchants.

I have read that the reason why J.W.A. Hengel choose a fish as his privy mark, is as a joke to his last name. Hengel meaning ''rod'' or more specifically ''fishing rod''. 


 
Image Description Mint master Starting year Ending year Additional notes (Ear of) Corn Period without mint master 1795 1802 Batavian Republic Eagle Period without mint master 1795 1796 Batavian Republic Bee G.J.L. du Marchie Sarvaas 1807 1810   Mast (Sailing) G.J.L. du Marchie Sarvaas 1812 1813   Clover Y.D.C. Suermondt 1815 1815   Helmet Y.D.C. Suermondt 1816 1817   Torch Y.D.C. Suermondt 1818 1838   Palm tak G.D. Bourgogne Herlaer 1821 1830   Lily P.C.G. Poelman 1838 1845   Lily with pearl H.A. Bake 1845 1846 Interim / acting Mint master Sword H.A. van den Wall Bake 1846 1874   Sword with clover P.H. Taddel 1874 1874 Interim / acting Mint master Axe P.H. Taddel 1875 1887   Axe with star H.L.A. van den Wall Bake 1887 1888 Interim / acting Mint master Halbard H.L.A. van den Wall Bake 1888 1909   Halbard with star Mr. G. Blom 1909 1909 Interim / acting Mint master Seahorse Dr. C. Hoitsema 1909 1933   Grapes Dr. W.J. van Heteren 1933 1942     Acorn* Period without mint master 1941 1945 German Occupation   Palmtree* Period without mint master 1941 1945 German Occupation   None Dr. J.W.A. van Hengel 1942 1942 German Occupation, Interim / acting Mint master   None D.M. Pey 1942 1942 German Occupation, Interim / acting Mint master   None Dr. J.W.A. van Hengel 1942 1944 German Occupation, Interim / acting Mint master   None D.M. Pey 1942 1945 German Occupation, Interim / acting Mint master   Fish Dr. J.W.A. van Hengel 1945 1969 First mint master under the rule of Queen Juliana   Fish with star Dr. Ir. M. van den Brandhof   1969 Struck after the retirement on 1st of June 1969 of the Kingdoms' Mint master, Dr. J.W.A. van Hengel, on a die he designed and was destined for the Netherlands Antilles.   Rooster Dr. Ir. M. van den Brandhof 1969 1979 Last mint master under the rule of Queen Juliana   Rooster with star Ir. B.C.H.J. Smit 1980 1980 Interim / acting mint master, first mint master under Queen Beatrix   Hammer and Anvil Ir. J. de Jong 1980 1987     Bow and Arrow Drs. Chr. van Draanen 1989 1999 Last mint master on Guilder currency, first mint master on Euro currency   Bow and Arrow with star E.J. van Schouwenburg 2000 2000 Interim / acting Mint Master   Fruit-bearing vine R. Bruens ING 2001 2001     Fruit-bearing vine with star Ir. M.T. Brouwer 2002 2002 Interim / acting Mint master   Sails setting course, ship '' the Netherlands Ir. M.T. Brouwer 2003 2015     Sails setting course, ship '' the Netherlands'' with star Ir. K. Bruinsma 2015 2016 Interim / acting Mint master   Sails setting course, ship '' the Netherlands '' with star T. Peters 2016 2017 Interim / acting Mint master   St. Servatius Bridge S. Satijn 2017 2021 A symbol for his city of birth, to symbolize his function as bridgebuilder and as connection between private and public   St. Servatius Bridge with star Period without mint master 2021 2021     Raven Drs. B. van Ravenswaaij 2022    

Wikipedia page (in Dutch): 
https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lijst_van_muntmeestertekens

Original document from the Royal Dutch Mint from 2016 (in Dutch):
https://web.archive.org/web/20160306012552/http://www.knm.nl/cmsdata/fckuploads/file/muntmeestertekens(1).pdf
 

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Thank you all for your input, I do very much appreciate it!

It's the Birmingham Assay Office hallmark.

Hi, Alex.
What you discovered yourself is true. Also, what @Roy and @sixgun said is accurate.
I have tried to find more informations about the maker GMC from Birmingham. The maker mark GMC in a shield can not be associated with any known (documented) silversmith from Birmingham. 
There are only two factories with these initials, but both of them were active in the first half of the 20th century and also their stamp was different, having another shape:
1. Gorham Manufacturing Corporation, the american well known brand who had a branch in Birmingham.
2. G. Mills & Co. They probably closed their factory during the second world war; their mark was not seen since.
So, I really don't know who made your ingot, but I have seen an abundance of unknown silver makers marks associated with the Silver Jubilee year 1977, not only on ingot pendants, but on spoons, plates, miniatures, etc. Maybe a lot of artisans/hobbyist seen an opportunity to sell small memorabilia silver products only that year then stopped.

Hi Folks,
I picked this up today and was wondering if anyone could help clarify the sovereign mark on this Ingot. 
 
from what I have found so far about the marks:
maker: GMC (dont know much more)
assay office: Birmingham
country: England/UK
Date letter (C) - 1977
 
however, the sovereign effigy (I assume its Elizabeth) is not one I could fine on reference. Would anyone know if its a standard mark or commemorative  mark?
thanks for your help!

1977 (C) is the Silver Jubilee Year.
The effigy was a one-off.
 
edit: it's sterling silver.

25 x 10 Francs  have been sold

Hello everyone,
I have this 1926 american 10 dollar gold "indian" head for sale. 
The price is 1200 1140 EUR + shipping costs. 
I include three photos: reverse, obverse and exact weight. 
Shipping is from Belgium, payment is via bank transfer.
thanks for looking

In the European market (EU) they tend to sell for 5-8% over spot (dealer prices). Austrian mint has them for 107% spot price on their website

What Americans call PMD.  Post Mint Damage.  

To me, it looks as if it was damaged after being put into circulation.

Yup, release around end of may or the beginning of june. 

7). 1894 Crown LVII 92.5%
8). 1897 Crown 92.5%
22). 1870 1 Sol Y.J. 90%    

Sold

As a general principle, sovereigns are almost never worth getting graded for economic reasons.  By definition, valuable ones will be rare for any given year, so less than 1% (probably quite a lot less than 1%) of sovs would realise any price gains from grading.  Some folks like to buy brand shiny new proof coins and send them off for grading, which can be worth doing, but you're not going to make your fortune doing this as proof coins have a habit of not keeping their value.  However, being delicate and easily damaged, it can be worth slabbing proof coins just for the protection.
Grading really works best for items like silver dollars where the numismatic value dominates the value of the coin.  In this case folks might be paying $100 or more (sometimes many hundreds or even thousands) for a rare coin in good condition that would otherwise have a melt value of $20 or so.  With common gold coins like sovs, the premiums are much lower, and the value is dominated by the bullion value of the metal.  Sovs really have to be in exceptional condition for the year to be worth getting graded.
This one looks like it would grade VF or thereabouts, which makes it a reasonably nice coin but nothing unusual and certainly not worth sending off for grading.  Being a shield design, it has a small premium over bullion value, and would be worth perhaps £420-440 on the secondary market in that grade and current spot of £1,600 or so.  1864 isn't a particularly rare year with a mintage of 8.6 million so there's no real value from rarity.

Hello!

A variety of wold silver coins. Items have been numbered, list and pictures below.

Postage to be added, varies from 8-15 EUR depending on location and registered v standard, shipping from Republic of Ireland.
Payment via BT or Revolut.
Any questions, please ask. Offers are welcome.

1). 1946 half crown  50%-                                     5 EURO
2). 1922 1 florin   50%                                            3,50 EURO
3). 1914 2 Annas India 91.7%                                 2,50 EURO
4). 1940 Shilling (scotland) 50%                           3 EURO
5). 1942 Three pence 50%                                    2 EURO
6). 1917 Three pence  92.5%                                 1,50  EURO
7). 1894 Crown LVII 92.5%                                    35 EURO
8). 1897 Crown 92.5%                                           30 EURO
9). 1928 1 florin Ireland 75%                                 12 Euro
10). 1939 half Crown Ireland 75%                        14 Euro
11). 1939 Half Crown Ireland 75%                        14 Euro
12). 1953 20 Escudo 80%                                     15 Euro
13). 1995 500 Escudo st Antonio 50%                5 Euro
14). 1916 50 Centavos 83.5%                              12,5 EURO
15). 1993 Louvre 100 francs 90%                        12,5 EURO
16). 1920 2 Fr. Switzerland 83.5%                       7 EURO
17). 1968 25 Schilling Hildebrand 80%               8 EURO
18). 1925 1 Schilling Austria 64%                        3 EURO
19). 1888 5 Pesetas 90%                                     25 EURO 
20). 1892 5 Pesetas 90%                                    25 EURO
21). 1898 5 Pesetas 90%                                     25 EURO
22). 1870 1 Sol Y.J. 90%                                      28 EURO
23). 1987 10 Mark Rome treaty 62.5%               9 EURO
24). 1968 25 Pesos Olympian games 72%        15 EURO
25). 1974 50 Francs Hercule 90% -                   35 EURO

Tdc stands for Tristan da Cunha. 
 
a fair assumption, but for modern coins its not uncommon that they aren’t minted in the country of the currency they represent.  The companies minting these coins usually get backing from relatively obscure countries to denominate their coins, which makes them coins, not rounds, and that has advantages for the seller as well as the buyer. 
 
If you really care about the origin of a coin, you’re probably better off looking for world coins (older currency that was used in circulation) for those countries. 

#35

If you’re new to collecting buy what you like.    I started off with pandas May have cost me more/Oz than bullion sovs but they look better and worth more than the price difference now.   Just don’t get ripped off with internet marketing. Also don’t get caught up with some of the hype here. Just because other are pumping things up doesn’t mean you have to buy

I would say anything and everything gold. Gaining exposure and experience, following that you can narrow it down to the coins your prefer 

I have never used goldcore based on the fact that their pricing is really too high. If you take a monster box of brits, it averages out at 29,10€ per ounce. About 32-33€ per ounce for a tube. Definitely a few € per ounce cheaper from the likes of Europabullion or European mint. (Specifically for silver that is)

Well, it was sold for 20 euros hammer price plus auction commission (~20%) so ~24 euros total.

I think as others have said nice souvenir from holiday and quite literally worth there weight in metel alone (well close enough 😉)