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Just got home to this😊. My 1st platinum coin. Surprised there hasn’t been many more platinum metal coins in a platinum jubilee year. Maybe there are more coming but didn’t want to take the chance

Haven't bought silver in ages but fell in love with these 250g bank vault bars Cheeky little chunkies from my mate @entsor

Thanks to @Roy and @stefffana for the generous donation payment for the coins and the silver bull 🐂 going to my son. Made me feel very humbled and think of friends I served with sadly lost with the Afghani coin and the coin from Sierra Leone. Some good times and bad. I will treasure them forever💙. I have my military medals framed and thinking of placing the coins in the same frame. thanks gentleman 😊 from my boy and best 🐂 bully

Little delivery today, a few tubes and capsules to save some space and tidy up the small bit of space in the safe...and a few more ounces to take up that saved space 🤭

Got for my collection a wonderful 2020 1/10 kook from @modofantasma, at a great price . Thx for the great service.

Received this beauty in today. 2021 1/4oz Kookaburra gold proof. 500 max mintage. I had no idea the perth mint had released a quarter oz version until this past december. I had a hard time finding one available to purchase. You can find the 5oz silver Kook HR 2021 coin available all day long. But not this coin. Still this was much cheaper versus more recent releases in quarter oz gold proof coins I want to get from the royal mint.

Beautiful little 2022 addition to the silver stack courtesy of @Pandao who was an absolute pleasure to deal with. Was supposed to stop at 10 of these but couldn't resist! 2012 through to 2022 now.

Just had an email from Louise at "Coins of the realm" informing me that my 2022 sovereign has achieved a 70 grade.

Hello silver friends, just briefly , am glad to have still got such beautiful pieces. 2oz fine silver in ultra high relief and anique finish. Much more beautiful in person than the pictures can show. Greetings from Maxe and have a nice weekend.

Everyone is a flipper imo, just different strokes for different folks. unless you’re getting buried with them, but even then you are just keeping them for the flippers of the future. Id be interested to hear from those that adamantly deem themselves not flippers as to what is an acceptable period of time to hold a coin to say you are a genuine collector and at the point is there an acceptable % uplift over what you paid on release that you deem not profiteering? Or do you need to sell at what you paid (irrespective of time and markets) to not be a flipper? if the market has crashed and you sell for what you paid is that ok? i get it, ive been annoyed when ive missed releases but i dont hold it personally against those selling, yes some regret and undoubtedly envy but i just accept it, but everyone is different

Two lovely coins 1867 Australia 1 Sovereign NGC AU58 High grade for this type 1918 India Sov

It's important to distinguish the differences between bullion, BU (brilliant Uncirculated) and Proof. Bullion and BU are often used interchangeably and therefore assumed that they are the same thing which isn't the case, the number of strikes, creation of the dies, the time taken on the full process is very different: Bullion - 1 strike and machine finished. NGC grading designation MS BU (brilliant Uncirculated) - 2 strikes and hand finished. NGC grading designation MS and usually followed by an additional description to differentiate from bullion coins eg MATTE or DPL (deep proof like) Proof - 6 strikes and hand finished. NGC designation PF Here's a link on the Royal Mint's site that summaries the differences in a little more detail than above: https://www.royalmint.com/discover/coin-collecting/striking-standards/ Here's a video produced by the Royal Mint that goes deeper into the differences in the creation process between the 3. Only 5 minutes long and very informative: /

I think thats fair enough, but I imagine the vast majority of us, regardless of out respective nett worth collect within a range of affordability. I think for most of us a £5k gold coin is either unaffordable or a serious investment. If that coin never really changed much in value those who could afford it would likely be happy to hold and enjoy. But if that coin becomes worth 20k that collector needs to seriously ask themselves is it worth 20k to me, would I buy it for 20k, could I afford to buy it for 20k, do I want a 20k coin in my collection, etc. If the answer is no to any of those questions then I think its time to sell to someone who will answer yes to one or more and everyone moves on, the seller happy they had one for a while and isnnow able to buy stuff that suita their affordability and the buyer enjoying their valuable collection. Dont get me wrong, there a handfull that have just come in to the market as they see rhe margins, but i have no issue with them as to be successful they need to do a lot of research first. I also genuinely don’t think they refelct the majority of what alot of people here and elsewhere are grouping as ‘flippers’

Great comment. Some people think they are more entitled to a newly released coin than others, simply because they are ‘collectors’. What a strange position to take, almost like it comes from a place of hurt personal feeling that ‘I have missed out’. It’s the free market baby, put up or shut up in my view. They don’t seem to complain if it benefits them…

Fair enough, I was a little confused by your reaction but I can see why the constant bemoaning of flipping is tiresome. To an extent I agree we are probably all flippers in the long term with something so I'm certainly not against making a profit, it's just dissapointing to see people here denied a chance to own something that would have meaning to them while seeing items on ebay within minutes of the sale ending. I may have been a tad snarky at the end though which was possibly uncalled for and did get me a telling off which was fair enough

This times 1,000 It is a very special event and one unlikely to be seen again for centuries, if not millenia (and assuming royalty even exists in the future !) …..the very least the Royal Mint should do, out of respect for the Queen and the event, is to produce an appropriate casing and box….the very least…

As I was reading Jordans monthly expenditure, I was thinking silver is the least of his worries 😟

Some members have had quality issues with this new sovereign, but with over 98% achieving a 70 grade in the NGC census, so far , I think the Royal Mint should be congratulated on the quality of these sovereigns. I would have been very unlucky if my coin had not achieved a 70 grade.

IMO the difference is that a collector will simply not want to sell certain coins. For example, I recieved my 2oz gold Gothic Crown a few days ago, and it's just beautiful. I can honestly say I don't want to sell it, as I want to look at it often over the years and sleep well at night knowing it's safely in my collection, in perfect condition. If I were in the position where I had to sell assets, my gold 2oz would be the last coin I sell.

No. This is also a proof Sovereign (more strikes than the bullion) but with a full matte finish on both obverse and reverse. It also has a plain edge. It is certainly not just a billion Sovereign in a box. @SovereignBishop

Found a good deal yesterday , Coins arrived today

Hi, New here, just been listening to Backyard Bullion who put me in touch with the forum. I'm recuperating from a foot operation over the next week so spending my time do research. We've been invest in gold and silver and so now want to make savings buying some vat free purchases at last! Great to see this forum exists and looking forward to learning and buying. Any advice is welcome as I've never been that good with forums in general so will hopefully work it out as I go along. Thanks, HANDF (Stands for Harry and Fenella)

@SilverJacksanswer to the question most would want a 70. It’s so easy to be blinded by the label than look and appraise the coin themselves. But ultimately it’s the referees decision on the grade. the price difference between a 69 and a 70 can be tremendous. Nothing wrong at all picked up some good valued 69’s.

I don't think it's all hype - a beautiful design or a design that holds historical significance will always be just that. And it will always be popular. These Great Engravers coins though are, at the end of the day, copies made for those who cannot get an original coin - either for lack of funds or because of the scarcity of them. I have no problem with anyone buying with a view to making a profit - be it next week or next decade. As has been said we all love a pound note and i have taken advantage of the the zeitgeist myself in the past. I like to think though that it has not been at anyone else's expense - just market forces (and maybe gullible purchasers). When a coin release has a small mintage which is snapped up by speculators who manage to buy multiple coins (contrary to the supposed purchase limits) at the expense of collectors then it just feels wrong. I have seen many secondary market listings for the gothic arms coin which state that multiple coins are available - this, to me, is the hype i am referring to. An artificial scarcity. Just my rambling thoughts 😁

Great point on coin valuation. Last year I was lucky enough to get a 2oz silver Three Graces. Small potatoes to some. But to me, holding a coin that was worth £2000, then 1300, then 1000 etc. It was enough to detract from enjoying ownership of the coin. A nice problem to have albeit. I still have the coin, but wish I sold immediately. The returns could've bought 2x PF70's right now... For someone securing a 2oz gold, they may have storage/insurance issues to think of. It may be more convenient to part with immediately for many reasons. But either way, we are all entitled to try and purchase sought after coins and we're all entitled to make our own decisions on what we do with them, if lucky enough to get one. It is for this reason that I don't particularly like the idea of securing coins via the mint marquee. I understand rewarding people for their loyalty, but not by offering them coins that everyone else has to queue up for. That's not my idea of a free and open market. I think everyone should have equal opportunity to purchase these coins.

I think this is why the prices depreciate so rapidly. The success of these coins have caught the attention of more than just coin enthusiasts. Personally, I don't blame anyone. We all want a free market. Most members of this forum would acquire multiples of these coins given the chance. Some were lucky enough to have secured two coins while others missed out entirely. I consider myself lucky to have got one but disappointed it wasn't the two coin continuation. I have no problem with anyone that has done better than me in acquiring their coins. They are in a position I'd like to be in. I must say I do wonder how some people seem to have a very high success rate in acquiring their coins through the Queue-it system. They seem to be at the front of the queue every time. Is that really by chance. It's not a criticism and I wouldn't expect them to share their secrets with an online forum, so I don't blame them. But It is a tad irritating when you're 4000 in the queue and wondering if there's a trick to get to the front. Then there's the mint marquee. The cat's out the bag with that one. I wonder how RM will cope with a huge increase in members. I predict it won't be quite so exclusive in the near future. except for the upper levels possibly This and the fact that RM have been fulfilling the orders in batches can potentially keep the price down as more coins have yet to reach the market. But it's still early doors. What will these coins be worth in a few years? We're only 3 coins in to what could be the best series RM have ever produced It's definitely a factor but I wouldn't say it is ALL hype. It's a fantastic series. RM have the opportunity to keep it that way if they don't ruin it by raising the mintage figures and various denominations. How long will the hype last? What is the value of each coin once it subsides? Who can tell? Maybe they are currently overvalued. Maybe as the series unfolds and people need to backdate their collection, the current prices might look cheap... 🤷‍♂️

I’d be interested to know if my latest exploits deem me a flipper or not: i bought the silver 2022 annual sets as I wanted the JC crown. I don't want the rest, not my thing and they are expensive. So I've stripped it out the set. I had offered the remainder here at what was equivalent to less than cost. No one wanted them, fair enough, so I've shot the lot on ebay to move on. If those coins sell and I effectively get the crown I wanted for cheap, next to nothing or even make more than the whole set cost does that make me a flipper? but if they sell for nothing and the crown costs me a 80% of the set price does that make me a collector? some would say how can I be a collector splitting a set up, but thats exactly what the daddy of flippers does, the RM and i’ve collected the crown(s).

@LawrenceChard let me know when you get these in stock please

The flipping of these coins has produced an unnatural and inflated market. The days of studying the coin and making a reasoned decision to purchase at your leisure have gone. Now, if you don't buy immediately from the source then you have no choice but to purchase on the secondary market or go without. Historically popular coins were a slow-burn that increased in value over time. Part of the process was the diminishing numbers of available coins, something that is rarely going to happen with modern proofs. The expectation that a brand new coin should immediately be worth 2 or 3 times it's purchase price is unrealistic - driven by speculators and, to some extent, grading companies. Pretty much everyone who collects / buys RM coins does so in the expectation of future profits. The reality is that the majority of coins end up worth a lot less than the original sale price. Who can blame flippers for cashing in on the hype - striking whilst the iron is hot is not a bad thing in itself. But it does leave a sour taste in my mouth. The real question is - why do people fall for the hype over and over again ?

Whilst I get the direction your comment is Going in, I'm going to play devil's advocate and say "flippers" play their part in this mad old journey we are on! Sometimes their actions can work in our favour and drive price upwards? Without secondary sellers then certain collectors wouldn't stand a chance in hell in acquiring their desired coin. Lastly and most importantly (90%) of us are flippers on some level deep down and we all have a price? Whilst I've every intention of making the set and holding long-term, I'm more than honest enough to admit that if someone offered me an obscene amount compared to rrp then not only would they get my crown ....I'd wrap it in silk for them lol. My point is....being angry because someone else is trying to improve the quality of their or family's life even for a short while is pointless. Live and let live I say.

There is an established tradition of continuing with the monarch's portrait on UK coins, after his/her death, for the full year, before changing portraits. If a monarch died late in the year, it might even mean continuing with his/her portrait for the early part or even the whole of the next year.

The postie brought the quarter sovereign today. That completes the set at the moment but I would dearly love a five sovereign to go with them.

Nice SOTD sovereign. Will be going off for grading (grubby marks are on the capsule). Hoping to get a top grade for this low mintage coin (739).

I Wouldn't Buy Silver By: Jordan Graveline I would buy a nice haircut for $30 But I wouldn’t buy silver for $30 an ounce I would buy a tank of gas for $60 And I have bought a night out for $90 But I wouldn’t buy silver for $30 an ounce I would buy a TV cable package for $120/month And I have bought a pair of shoes for $150 And I need to pay my cellular bill of $180 But I wouldn’t buy silver for $30 an ounce I would buy car insurance for $200/month And I have bought groceries for $400 And I need to pay my credit card of $700 And I want to buy a new snowblower for $1000 But I wouldn’t buy silver for $30 an ounce I would rent a nice place for $1500/month And I have bought a nice diamond ring for $3000 And I need to pay off my student loan of $7000 And I want to buy a vacation getaway for $20,000 And I should have my savings account at $50,000 But I wouldn’t buy silver for $30 an ounce I would buy a washer and dryer for $3000 And I have bought artwork for $5000 And I need to pay off my car loan of $10,000 And I want to buy a new truck for $90,000 And I should have a portfolio worth $500,000 And I am going to pay $1,000,000 for a modest house… But I wouldn’t buy silver for $30 an ounce Overpriced?

*Inhales deep breath and enters northerner mode* I would buy a nice haircut for $30 - $30?! Wor lass isn't happy unless it's £300! Nails n' al that patter! I would buy a tank of gas for $60 - $60? Is petrol that cheap still? Does that mean we don't need to use red diesel? And I have bought a night out for $90 - $90? Feed the whole bloody tribe a week for that, wor kiddah! I would buy a TV cable package for $120/month - $120? Free if ya gan to the pub! And I have bought a pair of shoes for $150 - $150? They made of bloody silver, like? And I need to pay my cellular bill of $180 - $180? Wor man! Pay for the whole year in one pop, like? I would buy car insurance for $200/month - $200? Car is worth less than that! And I have bought groceries for $400 - $400? That's a weekend's worth of Newc'y broon dog! And I need to pay my credit card of $700 - $700? They let you have credit cards? And I want to buy a new snowblower for $1000 - $1,000? Ye want'a bloow wor snow aroound? Wor lass doesn't wear knickers till it's up to her crotch, man! I would rent a nice place for $1500/month - $1,500/month? Ye ranting oot the whole of tha toon, like? And I have bought a nice diamond ring for $3000 - $3,000? Ye, man! Give her a Gregg's pasty, more useful than some rock. And I need to pay off my student loan of $7000 - $7,000? Wor educashun was right beltas, divn't think it cost a single poond! (I'm also going to put a sensible grumble in here about this figure being far below what it is- bloody swines!) And I want to buy a vacation getaway for $20,000 - $20,000? Ye gannin on Air Force One, like? Gan'ta the beach, get yerself some fish n' chip's, like - proper jolly! And I should have my savings account at $50,000 - $50,000? How's'at, like? Wor only get minimum wage, like! I'll be deed afor then! I would buy a washer and dryer for $3000 - $3,000? Wor, lad, you divn't need ta buy the hawl laundry building! And I have bought artwork for $5000 - $5,000? What you want'ya Mona Lisa for? Get ya'self a Newcastle mug, quality! Not that Sunderland s****! And I need to pay off my car loan of $10,000 - $10,000? How man, I divn't think ya need the escort services of the Queen, just use wor trusty steed, got a few years left in him! And I want to buy a new truck for $90,000 - $90,000? Wor, man, sounds like the dealer ripped you off on that one! And I should have a portfolio worth $500,000 $500,000? Giz'us a fiver, kiddah! If ya have that much, you got some spare! And I am going to pay $1,000,000 for a modest house… $1,000,000? You can'n't buy up the Duke of Northumberlands land! He'll send the goons n' burley men roond! But I wouldn’t buy silver for $30 an ounce. - If your patter wur water, we'd al be drunn'in! Overpriced? The silver, or everything else? (I appreciate that some people will somehow manage to take the above sarcasm personally. As a side note, surely someone from the crypto community wants to come stumbling into this thread, like a drunk, vomit all over the place, order another round, and walk out, while whispering "Told you Bitcoin was the right investment".)

Slightly tangential to the whole flipping topic… but imagine having a et of all four 2 Oz gold coins. 😭 That’s not me crying - just my eyes watering.

It will probably be sold pre-tarnished!

there you see, i took it that it was you that wouldnt buy 1oz of silver 😂

If that is the case and you are a collector, it doesn’t matter. Why? You are holding the coin so eventually the flippers will be out of the way and the true value will be realised by the free market. I’m a bit Fed-up of reading snarky, snidey comments. Life is too short!

Minor imperfections, not sure if it would affect grading if going down that route. I would suggest putting on sale here for cost plus £100 if not happy. Chances of a replacement from the mint are low I would think. That way someone else can appreciate the coin.

From what it is worth my 2000 year blisters are in great shape but must have been stored well.

I am surprised flippers are selling so quickly. When the portrait comes out, those that only get a portrait will be after the arms to make a set…that will push the arms coin prices up wouldn’t you think ? But heck, what do I know ?

Regarding blister packs of any sort a brief concern of mine is that they will deteriorate over a period of years (long term) The colours will fade over time, the thin sheet of protection similar to that of a brand new phone screen will peel and curl up at the corners. A very nice brand new item is shiny and definitely a trophy piece at the start but like anything it will show signs of 'wear and tear' no matter how well you protect/store it over time. Any seasoned stackers out there that can share their experience with any packaged bullion items?

There will be a battle for this coin on February 6. With a mintage of just 1,200 and the appeal of the special occasion, the demand will far exceed the supply. It’s already happening. I expect the available coins will be snapped up in minutes when the Royal Mint opens the floodgates. If you’re interested, better to lock in this coin before February 6 if you can find them and don’t mind spending more than the RRP.

Here is the double layer one I had cut that takes the 1/4oz and 1oz RM screw capsules with the lip . The top layer holds 10 x1oz & 10 x 1/4oz and bottom layer holds 11 x 1/4oz .

Received this sterling silver with half sovereign ,money clip. Super nice. Thanks to @Grufflehog .was surprised to see a silver ring in the package.a nice little gift. Thanks again Mark.

Big thanks to both @arphethean and @Mrbigah for today's bundle